|  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 12:58 | |
|  | Omlouvám se za OT, jak se létalo v 70.-80. letech? Od majáku k majáku?
Google mi odpověď nedal.
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 |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 13:04 | |
|  | Jak kde. NAd pevninou ano, nad morem tezko. Byly INS, Loran C, Decca. |
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 |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 13:41 | |
|  | Fajn... a který z tebou zmiňovaných systémů že má mít jednadvacítka? A kde v kokpitu že přesně to zařízení je? Specifikuj který typ jednadvacítky myslíš?
Díky... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 13:44 | |
|  | Jde mi o Čsla cca 80. léta. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 14:48 | |
|  | Radiomajaky a letovodi, plus vizual. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:28 | |
|  | Já to chápu... Reagoval jsem na kolegu co zas sršel vědomostma, bůh ví za jakým účelem, tam kde neměl... 
Neboj... Tonde ti poradí  |
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 |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 13:42 | |
|  | Konkrétně u nás. Koukal jsem na Pod nohama nebe, ale tam je akorát bližná, dálná a přívodní radiomaják. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 14:55 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 5. 11. 2014 / 14:27 | |
|  | To jo a taky myslím, že pérák zas jednou posloužil dobré věci - sám jsem vytěžil spoustu informací a děkuji všem, kteří přispěli!
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 5. 11. 2014 / 21:33 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 6. 11. 2014 / 09:48 | |
|  | Ano, kvalitní letecké hodinky se před letem fasovaly a po letu odezvdávaly - dík za obrazové doplnění našeho starého hodinkového vlákna (viz Viz 8. odstaevc tohohle příspěvku: http://www.flightsim.cz/forum_prispevek.php?id=255160&lan=0 ) .
Ovšem do MiGu jsou ty primky stylovější, to musíš uznat! |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 6. 11. 2014 / 12:37 | |
|  | jj, to jo.
Ale k tomu tvému příspěvku, ty Adrianautiky mám taky, ale v černém pouzdře. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 15:18 | |
|  | Ještě jeden odkaz, jestli znáš tento geniální tutoriál (sice to není na MiG-21, ale mezi řádky to velmi dobře odhaluje filozofii letu létání s rourami let 80. a 90. a rešení situací za letu) zde: http://www.flightsim.cz/fsitem.php?act=exe&id=506&menu=
je potřeba si uvědomit, že v té době to málokdy byl dlouhý let a že jednotlivé OBT, segmenty mezi nimi, časy, náměry, rychlosti - museli stíhači umět nazpaměť, protože na to byli sami (neměli navigátora) a absolutně nebyl čas se v něčem dloubat a vejrat do mapy nebo na komputor v nákoleníku. Letový plánek byl ve formě nákresu - jen pro vizuální paměť, zkusím někde ten náčrtek najít a dát ho sem. Filosofie létání tehdejšími rourami byla úplně jiná, než jak jsme dneska zvyklí lítat cesnami a podobnými vozítky (o RNAV a podobných ani nemluvě).
Škoda, že se tu už skoro nevyskytuje Tonde a Dandee, ti by mne jistě opravili a upřesnili (zdravím vás chalani, kde je vám konec??)
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 15:29 | |
|  | Tonde má teď jiné starosti, co ho sleduju na facebooku tak je z nej obstojny ukrajinec maka jak barevny a domek mu roste pod rukama... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 16:43 | |
|  | dostaneš do držky, Toomitsch, jakej Ukrajinec?!?!? Košice jsou krásný, východoslovenský město 
Až dotisknu vypínač na 3D třískárně, tak písnu na požádání soudruha Kumy pár řádků o tom, jak se lítaly navigační na jednadvackách. Teď jen ve zkratce - těžko  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:32 | |
|  | Já mám v paměti nějaký článek - ale nevím, zda na netu nebo Atomu, Radaru či v "krovkách", který se jmenoval "Střelby na Baltu" - a bylo to o tom, jak se s MiGy lítalo na ostré střelby do Polska - bylo to odstartovat (už nevím, jestli Čáslav, Žatec nebo odkud) - a prostě jen pár OBT, na střelnici vypálit raketu, snad i pár ran z palubního kanonu do dalšího cíle - a zas přes dva tři OBT zpátky domů. K tomu byla přefocená mapka s nakresleným plánem letu (na nákoleník) - a v tom obrázečku bylo všechno - přesněji, co tam nebylo, to pilot neměl. Jenže zaboha to nemůžu najít... 
PS:
Těším se na Tondeho příspěvek, až seškrábne lžící maltu s dlaní!
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|  | To je vono !!

Dík! |
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|  | Dík, tohle přesně odpovídá na můj dotaz.
Navíc, včera mi dal kolega databázi letišť, takže jsem šťastnej jak prase s plnou hubou pomejí.  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:28 | |
|  | Mig-21 po okruhu mám, ale nevěděl jsem právě tu trať. V těch filmech to záměrně nebylo. Tu 21 znám, ale lítám teď "pouze" fs98 (Notebook, Linux, Wine, FS98).
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:54 | |
|  | Notebook, Linux?
X-Plane! |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 18:47 | |
|  | x-plane těžko, jedině nějakou starou verzi, hodně starou. Notebook je Asus X51-RL, stařeček. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:37 | |
|  | Takhle nákoleník do MiGu z 80. let vypadá v reálu.
(Je to spíš ilustrace, z tý mapky toho moc vyčíst nejde. To nejsou ty střelby, o kterých jsem psal jinde) |
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 |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 14:48 | |
|  | v jednadvacitkach?  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 16:22 | |
|  | Nevim to presne zda v tech Mig-21 byly anebo nebyly namontovany i zarizeni RSBN.
Jinak co si pamatuji z Mosnova tak skutecne Dalna (VPRNS), Blizna (BPRNS) a nejake ty majaky no a samozrejme letovodi s RL navadenim. Jo a abych nezapomel na kluky v zamerovacich typu ARP-6 a dalsi. Nejak vice toho asi nebylo. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 4. 11. 2014 / 17:49 | |
|  | Prehledl jsem, ze jde konkretne o migac kvetinac. Taky to mohlo byt i v textu dotazu. Proste jsem cetl obecne let po trati. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Migáč květináč 4. 11. 2014 / 17:53 | |
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 |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 8. 9. 2015 / 17:52 | |
|  | S odstupem času doplním, že v tom filmu Pod nohama nebe je po startu záběr na nákoleník s nakreslenou tratí. Jelikož se v té době neotočilo v HD, tak to není čitelné, ale asi kurs/čas, protože po nasazení na trať spustil stopky. |
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 |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 8. 9. 2015 / 18:15 | |
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 |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 8. 9. 2015 / 21:30 | |
|  | OT: na tebe a tvou 159ku se už chystám, ale do té doby budeš mít i 21ku 
Díky. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 9. 9. 2015 / 07:03 | |
|  | Tak rychlej zase nejsem, ale až budeš chtít tak se ozvi  |
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 |  |  | Mig-21 navigace na trati 8. 9. 2015 / 19:18 | |
|  | Captain Sim vydal pred mnohymi rokmi sparku Mig 21 pre FS 2004 a CFS 2, mozno to bolo aj pre FS 2002. Mal som to v krabicovej verzii a tam bol aj celkom komplexny PDF navod s vycvikovym programom od letov na okruhu, cez strelby, bombardovanie a pod. Dokonca tam boli formulare na ziacku knizku pilota ziaka. Samozrejme tam bola vysvetlena aj navigacia na nejake radiomajaky, ak si dobre spominam. Pozri niekde na internete, ci ten navod v PDF nie je niekde na internete. mam pocit, ze tento sim je uz vypredany. Mali aj Albatrosa a oba simulatory mali detailne spracovane rozne domovske vycvikove letiska na Ukrajine? Ked si mal nainstalovane obe lietadla, tak si mohol lietat medzi tymito AFB. Toto je moje hrabanie v pamati |
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