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| | Hello !
I'm looking for L-200D Morava 3-view drawings, maybe somebody on this forum can help  I have some drawings from magazines ( L+K, Zlinek, Modelar ) but these drawings shows the L-200 variant, NOT the L-200A or D. The main difference is at the cockpit/windshield section, because A and D variants have lower cockpit. If anybody has any information in this question, please contact me !
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 |  | | | Morava drawings 25. 7. 2012 / 23:00 | |
| | | No chlapci, (toto nie je odpoveď Bencemu, ale výzva) ak by niekto z novších členov fóra nevedel kto je Bence, tak je to jeden z autorov v minulosti (špičkových) eroplánov do FS-ky. Takže doporučujem prehľadať všetky disky a všetko o Moravách mu poslať. Aj ja tak urobím. Myslím, že sa možno rysuje kvalitná Morava. |
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 |  | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 10:48 | |
| | To určitě jo - ale i pro nás zajímavá informace, pokud je správná - nějak jsem zatím neslyšel o tom, že by L-200A a L-200D měly rozdílné rozměry (výšku) kokpitu - vy někdo jo?
Vím bezpečně, že 1. prototyp L-40 metasokol měl nižší kryt kabiny (nižší štítek a nižší světlou výšku v kabině) - všechny ostatní už mají kryt kabiny vyšší. Že by něco takového bylo u Morav jsem ale zatím neslyšel... |
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| | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 11:40 | |
| | Letadla z ověřovací série značené L-200 (s Minory 6) měly opravdu proti L-200A a L-200D kabinu vyšší o 43mm. Toto zachycují výkresy ve Zlínku, takže mi není jasné, co přesně tazatel hledá...
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw2/l200_z.html
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 13:06 | |
| | No ja tiež presne neviem čo Bence hľadá. Ja som (myslím že to bolo pre neho) kedysi dal nafotiť všetky Žilinské Moravy - včetne interieru a išlo to k nemu myslím cez Peťa Priskina, ktorý tiež mal rozpracovanú (asi v spolupráci s Bencem, ale neviem isto a aj s Rusmi) perfektnú Moravu. Potom to nejako "zhaslo" takisto ako C-11 (ktorý už mal aj vymodelovanú tondeho hlavu ako pajlota  )
Ale o C-11 by mal niečo vedieť aj Kendy.  |
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| | | | |  | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 14:56 | |
| | Super snad by byla ta Morava ještě pro FS9.
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 15:28 | |
| | | I use google translator to understand your discussion Here is a screenshot from 3D Studio with the side view drawing and a side view photo. The windshield has steeper angle on the real plane compared to the drawing. Maybe it does not seems a big difference, but it affectes the top and front views also, and gives a bad 3D model, it's just like-a-Morava, not THE Morava... But it seems there is no better drawing for the plane, I have to puzzle the views from photos. Or I'm not clever enough ) |
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| | | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 16:29 | |
| | | L 200D. Compare with the drawing. |
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 17:02 | |
| | Ahá!
Takže obráceně proti meťáku - ověřovací série měla kabinu vyšší, série pak měly nižší.
Předpokládám tedy že L-200A a L-200D měly kabinu stejnou - nižší? Asi jo... |
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| | I have this drawing also, but it is wrong also  All the drawings I have from L+K, Modelar, Zlinek, FMT modeler magazines come from the same source, some has better resolution, some has more detail, but the shape is the same.
Look at the picture : on the front view the windshield has a completely different outline.
No other way, I have to make it from pictures.... |
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| | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 17:10 | |
| | Great work!
The problem is, that in fact neither before the takeover, nor after it, it is very hard to get the access to the original factory blueprints - if there is any posibility. So - it is easy to imagine, taht the authors of the popular articles had used the articles of their predecessors. I think that this is the common problem of such a special drawings...
Unfortunately the main czech aeronautical history and technics archive was flooded during the year 2002 and it seems to be no possibility to peep in it... |
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 17:26 | |
| | Thanks ! It was my opinion also : impossible to get factory drawings for an old plane. Yesterday I wrote to Let factory, if they can help, but I got this answer :
"Unfortunately we are not able to help you with your inquiry. L 200 is old programme from the times when 3D technologies were not usual at all, into the bargain, this programme is inactive for many years already."
I'm sure that the original drawings are in the deep of a cabinet somewhere, but nobdoy will dig them out |
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| | | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 17:33 | |
| | Affirmative, ab-so-lu-te-ly!
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| | | And please: will then plan a Super Aero 45/145? |
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| | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 18:22 | |
| | | I plan a lots of things to do... Morava and Aero is planned for FSX, but don't ask me a release date... |
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| | | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 26. 7. 2012 / 18:24 | |
| | | O.K., thank you |
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| | | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 27. 7. 2012 / 13:30 | |
| | ...And who will make the textures for this beauty, Bencécske?
And what about gauges? |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 27. 7. 2012 / 13:39 | |
| | I guess we could have someone skilled in making textures, once they are free from C-11 project (eehmm ) but gauges, those are going to be a bit of a problem in here I am afraid...
Are you making L-200A or L-200D by the way? I guess variable pitch prop in 200A is gonna be a bit problematic with FS SDK... |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 27. 7. 2012 / 16:46 | |
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| | Hi, I found drawings that can be got. Are the Russians and are large and detailed. There are also a side view of all types of Moravia. Send me via "private message" e-mail address where I send it. Or by e-mail address, I have it here in the profile.
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| | | | | Morava drawings 27. 7. 2012 / 14:37 | |
| | P.S.: Here are the (very reduced) screenshots. Great orignal I send the e-mail.
Jožo |
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 27. 7. 2012 / 16:41 | |
| | | Nevšimol som si, že sú to tie isté. Ale s blbým uhlom som si to aj ja myslel. Nakoniec jestli to bude na 100% sedieť so skutočnosťou nie je snáď až tak dôležité. Malý rozdiel si nikto nevšimne. Pre mňa osobne je dôležité, aby sa virtuálny kokpit podobal na skutočný, tzn. aby namiesto pekných rádiusov na oknách neboly nejaké šeťhrany, a podobne. Čo má byť okrúhle, nech je okrúhle. |
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| | | After two days game with polygons... I can not make better from pictures |
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| | | | | Morava drawings 29. 7. 2012 / 18:48 | |
| | Well I honestly have to say that this is very good!
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| | | | | Morava drawings 29. 7. 2012 / 20:13 | |
| | it looks very good. The sim must be X-Plane  |
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| | | | | | Morava drawings 29. 7. 2012 / 20:54 | |
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| | | beauty ! |
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| | | | | | | | Morava drawings 31. 7. 2012 / 10:40 | |
| | | Some more pictures here. I will update as I go https://picasaweb.google.com/107447966673893485372/L200MoravaFSX#5771250057318651762 |
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| | | | | | | | | Morava drawings 31. 7. 2012 / 13:11 | |
| | | Again, the beauty. I was ready to ... . And after the Super Aero 45/145... |
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| | | In order to be ready... |
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| | | | Morava drawings 26. 8. 2012 / 16:24 | |
| | | Hello ! I'm looking for a pilot oparation handbook for Morava. I test the model in FSX, and I want to setup realistic speed, rpm, prop speed, manifold pressure, etc... |
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| | | | | Morava drawings 26. 8. 2012 / 16:32 | |
| | | Hi, send me your email in private message... |
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| | | | | Morava drawings 3. 9. 2012 / 15:41 | |
| | Project is on its way, I tried to add the braces for the control surfaces instead of bump mapping. I think it looks good
https://picasaweb.google.com/107447966673893485372/L200MoravaFSX#5783629226514935330
We still looking for a person for gauge programming. If you interested, feel free to contact me !
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| | | | | | Morava drawings 3. 9. 2012 / 15:53 | |
| | Ahoj,
je nějaká šance, že to půjde i na FS9 ??
díky za informaci
R. |
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| | | | | | | Morava drawings 3. 9. 2012 / 17:05 | |
| | | I tried to export MeshSmoothed models to FS9, but the result is ugly FS9 can not handle it, and I won't build a completely new model for FS9. There is a turorial for it somewhere, If I find it and it works, everything may be possible. |
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| | | | | | | | Morava drawings 3. 9. 2012 / 18:23 | |
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| | | | | | Morava drawings 3. 9. 2012 / 17:51 | |
| | | Wow, it looks better than real one! |
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1x 
