|  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 21:13 | |
|  | ... na CT24... vypada to na archiv venovany letecke tematice  |
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 |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 21:16 | |
|  | tak oprava.. neni venovany letectvi, ale historii csa... |
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 |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 21:26 | |
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|  | koukám 144ka ještě bez předních křidelek |
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 |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 21:36 | |
|  | Když vidim, jaké měly ČSA ve světě postavení a kam všude létaly, skoro se mi chce brečet Myslíte, že by se dokázaly ještě dnes znovu prosadit a najít si místo na trhu? |
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|  | ne.
jinak - ja bych to postaveni zase nejak neprecenoval... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 22:40 | |
|  | a ja bych ho zase nepodcenoval..
ekonomika nebyla bolsevicka silna stranka.. ale musi se uznat, ze se litali opravdu zajimave destinace.. Hanoj, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Havana.. povetsinou prokomunisticke destinace, ale exotika jim nechybela.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 22:48 | |
|  | exoticnost destinaci urcuje "vliv" dopravce? No nejsem toho nazoru. Vliv je dany necim jinym. a kdyz se podivam na exoticnost destinaci csa v porovnani se zbytkem evropy, rekneme v sedesatych letech ... tak tech par linek litanych do cccp satelitu to opravdu nezachrani.
Kdyz, tak bych nas bezpochyby zaradil mezi prukopniky .. ale vliv .. ten jsme ztratili s nastupem vychodnacu k moci. a to, ze jsme byli prvni ne-cccp spolecnost, ktera do pravidelne linkove dopravy zaradila proudova letadla, to nezachrani. |
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|  | no.. já si myslim, že ČSA po určitou dobu měli celkem dobré jméno.. Jenže zaspaly a teď už to nedoženou.. nakoupily nevhodná letadla na dálkovky.. rozhazovaly se prachy..
Začalo to koupí A310 pro dálkovky a skončilo to Tvrdíkem, potažmo Lašákem..
Kdyby se nakoupily jiná letadla, na dálkovky uzpůsobená, bylo by to asi o něčem jiném.. ale to se tu můžeme dohadovat do aleluja, stejně je to všechno v prdeli..
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 23:15 | |
|  | ne. v dobe, kdy CSA koupily A310, byla A310 typem bezne pouzivanym na long-haulech a TATL letech.
jakou dalkovku by jsi chtel v roce 1989 kupovat? pokud prihledneme k tomu, ze nakup A310 je jeste dilo pred-revolucni, tak moc jinych moznosti nebylo. Boeing (767) - imperialisticky stroj, neexistovalo, aby litalo u nas. Jiny boeing tehdy - zadny nebyl. A i kdyby koupili B767- co by se zmenilo? IMHO by to s nasi "long-haul" flotilou dopadlo uplne stejne.
Airbus - tehdy tvoril A300 a A310. bylo to evropske, navic skorofrancouzske, a francie byla relativne spratelena zeme. politicky to bylo korektni.
MD11 - jeste se nevyrabelo
DC10 - tak trosku vykopavka uz tehdy, navic opet - imperialisticky stroj
zadny jiny long-haul v tehdejsi dobe... napada te nejaky?
Ne, to skoncilo mnohem driv... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 23:37 | |
|  | .. a kdyz to vemu dnesnim pohledem ... tak co by se zmenilo tim, kdybychom z politickych duvodu nemeli omezeny pristup napr. k US letadlum... mozna bychom meli 767 nebo 757.. nejsem si jisty, ze kdyz stary management nebyl schopny ziskove ulitat A310 z prahy do jfk, ze by nejakym "zazrakem" byl schopny totez litat s B767/757. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 11:06 | |
|  | Pak mi vysvětli, proč dálkovky u ČSA byly, alespoň to tak bylo podáváno, i po zavedení A310 ztrátové..?
Myslím si, že pokud už se neměl koupit vhodnější stroj, uznávám, že tehdy jich moc nebylo, tak se měly dálkovky zrušit úplně a lítat s A310 linky typu Bejrút, Cairo, Damašek, Moskva, Tel Aviv apod. On je rozdíl nalejt do toho bazmeku 50t paliva a už žádný cargo, nebo jen 25t a odvézt carga, kolik potřebuju..
A ještě jedna věc. Proč výdělečné tratě jako Dublin, Cork, Shannon, Mnichov atd. atd., se za Tvrdíka a následně Lašáka, nechaly padnout..? Myslím si, že dokud v ČSA na důležitých postech byli lidi, kteří měli k aerolince vztah (např. Beneš v Dublinu), tak byla aspoň snaha to někam posunout..
Za Kůly a Jakubšeho, když už neexistoval vzestup, tak aspoň nebyl zaznamenán pád..
To přišlo až s Tvrdíkem a Lašákem a všemi jejich nohsledy a dementy s tituly MBA, kteří mají patent na řízení čehokoliv od výkrmny prasat po leteckého dopravce. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 19. 7. 2010 / 09:53 | |
|  | Nekde jsem cetl ze rozhodujci tenkrat byla casovej horizont dodavek ...
A310 byla tehdy k mani takrka hned za to na 767 by se v ty dobe muselo 2-3roky cekat . |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 22:50 | |
|  | Nemyslím, že si to neuměli spočítat. Prostě bylo Stranou určeno, že stát potřebuje silné a prezentující Československé aerolinie s destinacemi po celém socialistickém a "přátelském" světě (a na druhou stranu po celé republice) a tak to prostě bylo realizováno a peníze na to se čerpaly od státu bez ohledu na ekonomickou návratnost.
Myslet si o tomto postupu mohu co chci, každopádně tento přístup je dnes zcela nerealizovatelný, takže ne, tento stav se nevrátí.
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 22:54 | |
|  | tak tak.. kdyz bych byl arabsky ropny sejk, a rozlitam 10 A380kami 2x denne Praha - Sydney, Praha - Cape Town, Praha - Tokyo, Praha - St. Marteen, Praha - Djakarta, Praha - Kathmandu, Praha - Vladivostok tak to sice budou (na Prahu) docela exoticke destinace, ale ze bych se soucasne stal vlivnou aerolinkou .. spis me budou mit za blazna  |
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|  | ale dyk jsem psal to samý.. ekonomika šla stranou.. |
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 |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 17. 7. 2010 / 22:05 | |
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|  | skoda, som to zmeskal  |
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|  | dakujem pekne, ale nejak mi to nejde prehrat.nainstaloval som aj moduly a stale to nejde  |
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|  | diky moc  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 08:47 | |
|  | da .. Trebas ve VLCcku nastavis ukladat stream na disk a pak tam das prehravat tu adresu video souboru, co najdes ve zdrojaku. Mozna by to slo i jednoduseji, treba atubem, ale to jsem nezkousel. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 09:16 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 12:20 | |
|  | Nemohl by někdo, kdo to už nastreamoval na disk někam uploadnout? byl bych mooooc vděčen!  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 16:02 | |
|  | nějak nechápu, proč by to někdo měl šoupat sem tam, když je to stále dostupné ??
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|  | archiv čt zůstává online dostupný napořád? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Dnesni archiv CT24 18. 7. 2010 / 17:16 | |
|  | Nevím jestli pořád, ale minimálně rok určitě
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