|  |  | Super video z FSX 30. 4. 2010 / 22:43 | |
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|  | Toto je zase dôkaz, že FSX je super simulátor a je vhodný pre nekonečné množstvo addonov a až nenormálne reálnych. |
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|  | ehm... Nechci znehodnocovat tenhle stromek Video je fakt úžasné, taky se mi hrozně moc líbí, ale rozhodně se mi nelíbí spojení "FSX" a "nenormálne reálných" FSX je jen a jen graficky vyšperkovaný (a díky tomu nechutně náročný) sim, který s realitou létání zas tak moc společného nemá V tomhle není o nic moc dál, jak FS9. |
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|  | No, tvrdit, že je to realita sama by bylo hoodně přestřelené, ale FSX je oproti FS9 zase výrazným krokem dál a to i v ovládání a chování letadel...  |
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|  | Já si toho teda nevšim Že to naučili nějaké addony, tak budiž, ale já beru to, co dává jako základ FSka sama o sobě Výrazným krokem bych to určitě nenazval (co se chování týče). |
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|  | No, třeba u vrtulníků je to hodně jinde, jako neletec samozřejmě nemůžu posoudit, co je lepší, ale naivně se budu domnívat, že by v kvalitě letového modelu dozadu nešli...  |
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|  | som rád, že takéto porovnania sú aj na iných stránkach nielen na Periskope, ele tiež nemôžem súhlasiť, že FSX či FS9 nedokáže sklz. Treba si vyskúšať Blaníka od W. Pipera a aspoň Tí čo robili základný kurz na ňom alebo ho lietajú do dnes, a spraviť jeden vzorový preskúšovací let a dodržať režimy ako v reáli, garantujem Vám,že konečne spoznáte svoj simulátor. To isté platí pre motorárov Z142 je k dispozícii, zoberte si povinné úkony do ruky a prevedte preskušovací let a let po okruhu. Doporučujem úkony vravieť nahlas a nesedieť len ako kvargľa na pulte.
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|  | Ale ten clanok porovnava 100 rokov stary X-Plane 8.50, ked uz tu mame davno verziu 9.50 a Austin odvtedy uz hooodne vela veci vylepsil. |
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|  | Ona je hlavne zaujímavá debata k tomu článku a hlavne porovnanie defaultnej cessny s nijak moc prepracovaným modelom s letovou dynamikou od Real-air Ale toto tu už odznelo viackrát. |
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|  | No a ke všemu je autor porovnání odborník na X-Plane na slovo vzatý, když tvrdí že X-Plane se vymýšlí dynamiku na základě tvaru modelu...
Ikdyž tohle je celkem rozšířený mýtus, že? |
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|  | Podľa mňa by bolo ideálne ak by napríklad čmeliak spravil do fsx z-50M a porovnali by sme ho s tvojou z-50m A odskúšal by ju niekto tretí s reálnymi skúsenosťami s týmto strojom. Myslím, že by bolo prínosom, keby si niekedy spísal ako si tvoril model aby letové charakteristiky zodpovedali čo najviac reálu. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Super video z FSX - fsx vs x-plane letova dynamika 1. 5. 2010 / 22:22 | |
|  | A co bude v porovnávací sestavě? Vývrtka? No, když ji někdo tej pajdě do FSX napíše tam tak možná bude, že? Nebo FSX už vývrtku umí defaultně? Ještě by v tej sestavě mohl být nožový let.. A asi by Xpln vyhrálo.. Ovšem soutěž krásy asi vyhraje FSX.. Ať se Víťa bude snažit sebevíc.. I když, třeba ne.. Je dost addonů do Xpln co jsou vážně povedený i po vzhledové stránce.. Ale pokud chceš porovnávat akrobatické letouny tak bude asi důležitější letová dynamika, ne? |
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|  | Ja som pôvodne myslel, že simulátory sú od slova simulácia, takže ide hlavne o letový model, alebo je to o inom?  |
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|  | Jak kdy...
Když děláš akrobatický speciál, tak jde na 100% o letové vlastnosti.
Když použiješ airlinera, tak tam o ty letové vlastnosti (především u bezproblémového letu) jde téměř minimálně. Tím chci říct, že to základní chování simulují všechny tři dostatečně a půjde především o simulaci přístrojů, systémů a navigace.
Pokud budeš chtít dostat Cessnu srovnávací navigací z bodu A do bodu B, tak budeš chtít co nejreálnější působící a co nejpřesněji zpracované prostředí.
A zkus z toho vyvodit nějaký univerzální závěr...  |
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|  | Na obyčejnou srovnávačku ti klidně stačí i FSka... just s Cessnou. Tam při běžném letu moc rozdílů nenajdeš, pokud nepůjdeš do krajních mezí, jako na pádovku, přistání se silným bočním větrem na beton apod. |
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|  | To jsem tím taky chtěl říct...  |
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|  | Ale to ti potom stačí aj to lietadielko v google earth Tam tiež zalietaš zrovnávaciu navigáciu a orto máš k tomu grátis  |
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|  | Podla mňa by bolo ideálnejšie keby niekto spravil do FSX napr. Z-726 (výkres a kopec fotiek dodám) a niekto zase to isté do X-plane a potom porovnávať. Načo robiť to, čo už existuje? |
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|  | Jinde, to je to spravne slovo. Do FSX si dali zalezet, aby to slo dobre uridit i lidem co o tomnevedi lautr nic a veskere projevy jevu pridruzenych k letani s helipotvorou by povazovali za bug.
Pokud by chtel nekdo argumentovat DODO 206tkou, tak vas predejdu tvrzenim, ze DODO 206tka by litala uplne stejne i v X-Plane - dodosim pouzivaji FS v podstate jen jako zobrazovac... |
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|  | teraz si odpoviem sám narazil som na stránku nemenovanej firmy http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_3D_Games_uk.html
a pozerám, že FSX je excelentne pripravená na 3dimenzionálne zobrazovanie. A to sa už píše rok 2010 pričom FSX skončila ako bolo povedané nižšie už v 2007. Ak má niekto s týmto skúsenosti prispejte do fóra svojimi názormi. |
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 |  |  | Super video z FSX 1. 5. 2010 / 01:14 | |
|  | Moc pěkné. Skoro jsem si zazačátku myslel, že koukám na ArmA II  |
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|  | A čo na to X-planisti a "zaťatí" FS dvetisícštvorkári?    |
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|  | Asi tak...dneska je spousta vychytávek jak udělat video s FSky takřka jako z realu. Rozhodně z toho neuchcávám ikdyž je to hezký... |
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|  | a popri tom nemusim mat neviem aky pocitac aby som to rozchodil tak ako to je na videu narozdiel od fsX |
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|  | Nevím jak je to možný ale čekal sem,že to sem někdo hodí    |
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|  | No, nechcem nič zhadzovať, božechráň. Ale na tom videu nič mimoriadne ja osobne nevidím, iba že sa tam moce B 737. Ale to bude možno aj tým, že ja som "VFR"  |
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|  | Tím víc nechápu tvé zapálení pro FSX X-Plane se s ortem graficky zas tak moc nevzdaluje a po stránce dynamiky letu je to úplně jiná liga, což je pro VFR důležitější, než nějaké odlesky a detail každého stébla trávy, ne?  |
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|  | coby? ti se muzou smat... typickymu xplanistovi bude grafika celkem ukradena, protoze na xplane odesel nejspis diky realnejsimu litacimu modelu ... |
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|  | Každému podľa jeho chuti. Ale od reality má aj X-plane dosť ďaleko. REALITA je len jedna a žiadny sim sa jej nevyrovná. |
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|  | tak preco tu nak propagovat ze FSx je najblizsie k realite ? mozno ze aj ano po grafickej sptranke ale spravanie modela atd je urcite xplane o dost blizsie |
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|  | Nejblíž chování letadel jsou ULL  |
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|  | "Líbí se mi"  |
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|  | Ja napíšem len takto, x-plane má dúfam ešte pred sebou mnoho vylepšení a časom možno aj takúto grafiku, ale fsx je konečná  |
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|  | No co by - krásnej simulátor máte! Užijte si ho ve zdraví.
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|  | Tohle mě prostě nepřesvědčí. Postprocesing v SonyVegas nebo jiném programu udělá divy. Ale je to jako když bych se podíval na reklamu na jogurt a pak se divil, že ten co jsem si koupil v obchodě nemá tak krásné ovoce jako ten co jsem viděl v reklamě. Já jsem s FS2004 spokojen, běží mi plynule a na lítání s Tu-154, Jak-40 a Tu-134 mi bohatě stačí, protože mi běží plynule a bez problémů. Nové PC prostě kupovat nebudu, protože mé oblíbené éra pod FSX stejně nepoběží. Takže autorovi videa mohu pogratulovat k jeho schopnostem práce s videem, protože s takovou by se lehce uživil na tvorbě reklamních spotů pro komerční addony, ale o kvalitách FSX to nevypovídá.  |
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|  | +1
FS9 mi vyhovovalo, co jsem chtěl jsem na tom rozchodil.. I orto s autogenem mi notebook utáhl a na moje poletováni v ČR mi to bohatě stačilo.. Ty letové vlastnosti nic moc ale na tu dobu to bylo super.. A taky to pěkně vypadalo.. A vážně, FS9 mě pořád baví..
FSX jsem měl v notebooku jen chvilku, na mě moc náročné.. Lítal jsem to ale nějak to nebylo ono.. Na co nevyladěné FSX když FS9 jsem měl přesně tak, jak mi to vyhovovalo, že? Ale i tak, v FSX jsem měl pocit že tam všechno lítá tak nějak "gumově".. A jak se někdo výš zmiňuje o kroku zpět tak u vrtulníků to podle mého krok zpět byl a velikej.. I když, vrtulník jsem nikdy neřídil ale v FSX to bylo vše až moc lehký a to mě odradilo..
Xpln mi teď asi vyhovuje nejvíc a to proto, že z toho mám pocit že to nějaké lítání fakt simuluje.. Jo, jsou tam kraviny, jsou tam věci které mi dost vadí ale ale dost toho mám jen v hlavě a to je asi pozůstatek z FS9.. Můžu si tam nastavit takovejch pitomostí a hovadin až mi vadí, že se v tom nevyznám.. Ale oceňuju, že tam ta možnost vůbec je.. Addony do Xpln jsou zatím v průměru podle mě horší než do FS9 ale najdou se úžasné vyjímky.. Xpln nejsou takové omalovánky jako FS a někdy mi to chybí ale ten pocit z toho že letím tam mám prostě největší.. ( Když porovnávám FS a Xpln, nejlepší je podle mě Condor ale to je kapitola sama pro sebe ) Tže jak napsal Tomáš, je mi fuk že to tak pěkně nevypadá, hlavně že mám pocit, že letím.. A proto to přeci hraju, ne?
Výsledek pro mě je:
FS9 - dobrý ale dynamika GA nic moc ovšem na airlinerech se to až tak neprojeví, velký plus jsou systém, plno kvalitních addonů..
FSX - náročné omalovánky, jako simulátor letadel mě to prostě nepřesvědčilo..
Xpln - výborné pro GA a mixéry, airlinery a jejich systémy zatím nic extra ale už se to začíná rodit.. Dynamika se mi prostě zdá nejlepší.. A podle mě to má budoucnost.. |
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|  | Hmmm... Zajímavé. Já osobně z default letadel ve FS měl zkušenost vlastně jen z C172 a tam, pokud s ní dám let na čistém simulátoru bez addonů, je FSX o několik řádů jinde. Jistě, do FS9 existuje plno addonů, ale až ty přiblíží její kvality na úroveň FSX, ve výsledku třeba za pětinásobnou cenu. Pokud pak budu mít stejný addon ve FS9 i FSX, FSX je zase úplně někde jinde a nejde jen o ten vzhled, jde i o ten pocit letu. Třeba termika ve FSX je mnohem dál než ve FS9, čili zejména u malých letadel je rozdíl velmi patrný. Jistě, letiště vypadají obvykle víceméně stejně ve FS9 i FSX a pohled přes 2D panel letadla taky, tam pak není třeba mít FSX, ale jinak to je velký krok kupředu, který je samozřejmě částečně vykoupen hardwarovými nároky. Ale zase, vždy to zvyšují addony, jinak na default FSX s default letadlem na PC roku 2010 půjdete na 200 FPS. Takže to je spíš o tom, že nechci/nemám nové PC, tak si vystačím s FS9, obvzlášť, když létám (jako 90 % lidí) airlinery, kde na začátku naprogramuju FMC a po několika hodinách s tím přistanu. |
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