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|  | Zdroj: planes.cz
Na vojenské letiště Praha - Kbely dnes po 17. hodině přilétla ze Sevilly první nová Casa C-295M pro českou armádu (výrobní číslo 062, registrace 0452). Ta dostane celkem 4 kusy, druhý letos v březnu a zbylé dva v roce 2011. Armáda jimi bude nahrazovat letouny Antonov 26. Z nynějších 4 An-26 (2408, 2507, 3209, 4201) mají nejdéle létat An-26 čísel 2408 a 2507, u kterých se plánuje vyřazení podle potřeby v letech 2012 - 2014. Zajímavostí je, že za první Casu bylo armádou zaplaceno pěti letadly L-159. Casa 295M má kapacitu 73 vojáků nebo 48 vyzbrojených výsadkářů, ve zdravotní verzi 24 raněných. Plně naložená má dolet 1500 kilometrů, se čtyřmi tunami nákladu pak 5000 km. Transportní flotilu naší armády by měla podle současného vývoje doplnit v budoucnosti i dvě letadla C-130 Hercules.
http://planes.cz/cs/photo/1068418/casa-295m-0452-czech-air-force-cef-praha-kbely-lkkb/
Jen by mě zajímalo, zda nějaká pěkná CASA je do FS |
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|  | Kachno, tak to budeš mít práci zaručenou, až Tě vymetou z práce... Vždyť je to skoro jako jÁTRo!  |
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|  | ATR-72 od Flight 1, napatlej to na zeleno-šedivo a máš to... |
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|  | No nejsem zastancem CAS ale nad zdejsimi "odborniky" zasnu... videl jsi nekdy vubec ATR-72 ze ho vizuelne srovnavas s CASou? asi ne, vid... |
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|  | Máš pravdu ATR-72 (je to 72 nebo 52? nebo jak vlastně? proč mě vůbec napadl tento název?) jsem nikdy neviděl jenom jsem chtěl slušně naznačit že casa je španělská hromada šrotu...asi tak... |
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|  | No ja nerikam, ze CASA neni srot, taky si to myslim, ale srovnavat vizuelni podobnost s ATR mi prijde vic nez blbost... to ero je absolutne jine... |
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|  | to máš pravdu! tvary Casy mi příjdou uplně nenapodobitelné  |
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|  | no...no chtel sem ti polozit otazku jakemu letadlu se to podle tebe nejvice podoba ale nebyl bych asi daleko od pravdy kdebys na me vybalil odpoved ze CASA se proste zadnemu letadlu nepodoba ani tvary nepripomina zadne jine letadlo ...ze ...
Ja nevim ...za boha si nemuzu vybavit letadlo ktere by bylo Case vic podobne nez ATR ...
muzes mi rict konktretne v cem ti to tak strasne moc prijde uplne odlisne ?
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|  | koukam ze ostrava hosti sve obyvatele a studenty rannni porci vtipne kase zdarma co ?
kolikrat si rikam jestli se nam v republice nejevi novej prirodni ukaz ...a to cim vetsi vzdalenost od prahy tim se asi procentualne snizuje IQ ....pac morava JEDE!!!! 
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|  | No ještě, že Ilegal je vzorný příklad moraváka  |
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|  | Bože, proč dals dušu do barana... |
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|  | Ja si vcera zase rikal ze se mi stala nejhorsi situace kterou jde zazit.....
a potvrzuju srazka s blbcem je fat tragedie .. |
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|  | to jde videt, kterym smerem IQ klesa... Vis, my na Slovacku jsme sice prudsi natury, ale nikoho jen tak neurazime... Tobe se jen usmivam... |
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|  | Neurazime ?
"Bože, proč dals dušu do barana... "
Ja ti polozil otazku na ktereou si se nevyjadril..
Chtel sem od tebe slyset nejakej tvuj nazor ....jakej kolikv ....
ale misto toho aby si ze sebe neco vyplivnul porad do kolecka opakujes ze je to uplne jine letadlo v diskuzi kde se resi jista podoba letadla ...a to je asi ten problem co ...pochoit vyznam slova podoba ....
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|  | Kdeby ti nad hlavou prolitla CASA se zatahnutym podvozkem tak si to spis spletes s jatrem nez s DHC8,Saabem atd... kdyz pomines hlavni podvozek a VOP tak je tohle ero skutecne nejpodobnejsi jatru .. |
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|  | Mě to taky přijde podobný spíš játru... Všechny ty CASY chtějí bázovat ve Kbelích? |
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|  | Az na trup kridlo a vyskovku celkem stejne... |
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|  | by me zajimalo jestli u ty fotek sedis a hledas 10rozdilu ...
nikdo netvrdi ze sou si podobne jako vejci vejci ....ale podoba zrovna 610 a 140 je dost velka .. |
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|  | Hehe to je jak u aut at vyjde z fabriky jakekoli nove auto, tak se vzdycky najde milion lidi, kterym to pripomina hondu, jinym zase audi, jinym zase .. ja nevim co  |
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|  | A pritom se na to staci podivat... |
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|  | aut je plná ....., výrobců takových letadel mnoho není.
Stejně L610 byla navrhnuta pod natlakem východních zemí, stejně jako L410. Nebýt jejich zásahu do téhle mašiny(si kladly určoté požadavky co by mělo éro splnovat) tak by L410 nabyla vubec uspesna, ptz by to nechteli ani brazilci, korejci a vubec už ne afričani, kde tohle éro své kategorie nemá téměř konkurenci. |
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|  | Jestli to není tím, že vychází modely se stejným základem, ale s jinou značkou => jinou maskou/světly Např. Audi, VW nebo Škoda, nebo Peugeot a Citroen apod  |
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|  | No, zrovna o koncernovych kcharach jsem nemluvil. Ono jde prave o tu masku a (predni i zadni) - to jsou jedny z nejvyraznejsich designovych prvku, ktere celkem zasadne ovlivnuji (vizualni) charakter auta, a u kterych si clovek vsimne podobnosti jako prvni. |
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|  | No, ani bych neřek Jako jo, dají tomu autu určitý charakter, ale není to jen o tom Ale to je jedno Mě jde spíš o tu poněkud zvláštní filosofii, že se vytvoří "nové" auto, které vypadá na první poled prakticky stejně jako auto "konkurence" a liší se jen v detailech, jako je např. ta maska nebo běžně nepostřehnutelnými drobnostmi jako o pár mm prodloužená karoserie, lehounce změněný tvar okna apod. |
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|  | nevsiml jsem si, ze by se fabie podobala golfu, superb podopal pasatum nebo prislusnycm audinam. nevsiml jsem si ze by se yetti podobal svym koncernovym sourozencum. kdyz do toho zahrnu dalsi automobiluk koncernu, seatt, tak tam podobnost neividm tuplovane zadnou. jo, obcas je tam nejaky ulet (napr. podobnost superbu a asi dve generace staryho passatu), nebo to, ze se ted nejaky audi, ktery konci v nemecku, bude dal vyrabet jako seat, a podobne solichy, ale jinak mi prosim ukaz nejakou zasadni podobnost i (treba jen) mezi koncernovymi auty.
ta filosofie je presne naopak nez pises - vyrobi se auto, ktere je "uvnitr" uplne stejne (stejna elektronika, stejne agregaty, atd), ale skatule se prave osadi jina. |
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|  | Audi A6 a Q7 mají stejnou palubku, a když myslím stejnou, tak je to kompletně zaměnitelný díl... 
Pak bych vtipně mohl prohlásit, že A6 avant a Allroad jako by si z oka vypadly (je to stejné auto, ale hrdě to nazývaj jinak ) 
Seat Aveo je A4 předchozí generace s přeraženým znakem s upravenou maskou a světly. Palubku to má s A4 cabrio...
Porsche Cayenne a VW Touareg mají volně zaměnitelné boční dvěře a i některé další díly ksroserie... |
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|  | Ne, to přece vůbec není pravda. Všechno to jsou zcela originální a nové kousky!  |
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|  | No, hele, a koukls na ty auta, a precetl jsi si neco o tech autech, nebo jsi jen hloupe reagoval na predrecnika? Asi ne. Ono titiz Audi Allroad se ma k A6 asi tak, jako treba Octa Scoutik ke klasicke octavce - je to jeho "offroadovitejsi" verze. Takze je zcela logicke, ze jsou si velmi podobne. Coz je ale neco jineho, nez to , o cem jsme se tu bavili v predchozi diskusi. |
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|  | Skoda Yety a Audi Q7 jako by si z oka vypadly.. |
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|  | A taky Škoda R a Porsche  |
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|  | No, pokud ti stačí, že to je hornoplošník, dvoumotorovej a kolečka zatahuje dio gondol na hraně trupu, tak je podobnější už klidně i L-410. Játro má úplně jinou vejškovku - a mně samotnej nízkej posaz na podobnost nějak nestačí...
K případnému addonu do FS: dala by se také nějak simulovat torze trupu okolo podélné osy při manévrech s náklony na opačné strany pomocí křidélek (což prý je specialita tohoto éra, kterou Spartan jaksi netrpěl..)?  |
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|  | myslím si, že kdyby výroba L610 se rozjela s certifikacemi, tak naše armáda tyhle éra rozhodně dá do výstroje: letounu mohl přistávat i na přírodních přistávacích plochách, všestraná použitelnost(civil-cargo-salon verze-military).
Viděl jsem video, kde byla L610 počítačově přestavená na military verzi, která sloužila jako námořní, byla na ni upevněné lasery, či co to bylo a měla sloužit pobřežní stráži proti pirátum teda polud jsem to z videa pochopil dobře.
Rozhodně si myslím že kdyby éro s výrobou šlo i s novými technologiemi, tak to ATR42 nahradí 100%
Sám jsem měl možnost vyzkoušet si odolnost trupu tohoto letounu požární sekyrou. Šlo o likvidaci pozůstalích nedodělaných strojů na lince v Kunovicích.
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|  | Jenze cely projekt L-610 byl stary a taky byl riskantni uz kdyz zacal. Nebyla pro nej jeste hotova pohonna jednotka (M602) a proto pak byly i ty paskvily se ctyrmotorouvou... proste se to ero vylihlo v nestastnou dobu...
Jinak nase armada L-610 pouzivala. Byl to pátý prototyp a létal zkoušky ve Kbelích |
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|  | Máš tak trochu asi pravdu, naše armáda by je asi zařadila. Otázkou ale je, zdavůbec a s jakým výsledkem byla zrovna L-610 kompatibilní se standardy NATO (palety, kontejnery atd.) - což je, myslím, jedna z podstatných slabin třeba té CASy. Možná se mý,lím (opravte mne), ale už průměrem trupu by byla L.-610 v nevýhodě -a potřeba mít k tomu nějakéd alší íéro by trvala... Ale možná se mýlím. |
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|  | díky moc, musím se zase zasmát pamatuji si, že když nám to půštěl učitel v hodině, tak celá třída se ještě týden smála
Ale co kdyby to tak dopadlo
No každopádně se omlouvám za můj blábol, nebyla to pohraniční stráž ale bylo to nasazeni proti ponorkám , nevidle jsme to skoro 3 roky tak uz si to moc nepamatuji |
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|  | ty vo*e. To se asi vypilo hodně slivovice,... |
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|  | Pokud si dobře pamatuji, tak byla 295 udělaná do FS2002. Lob |
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|  | vytuningovane okna, uau |
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|  | zaplať pánbuh že ta andula vydrží ještě pár let - bo bych se snad musel přeučit na nějaký jiný stroj... |
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|  | Jak je tohle vůbec možný: "Dodavatele letadel vybrala, aniž by vypsala výběrové řízení." ???
Ale v poho, ČR na to prachy má, se s někym soudit...  |
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|  | já bych hlavně celou eu i komisi někam poslal... rum už není rum, bryndza na slovensku měla namále, pomazánkové máslo najednou máslo není atd.... celou EU nám byl čert dlužnej, bych řek... |
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|  | Mně spíš sere, že pokud se tím někdo bude zaobírat, tak ty peníze, kterejma si někdo namastil kapsu, jsou už dávno v suchu a "nedotknutelný". Tak se státu vystaví účet a ten zaplatěj rovným dílem zbylí blbci (= my, obyčejní občané). A je jedno, jestli to byla Nomura, Diag-Human anebo průserová CASA. To ani tak není problém EU, ale skutečně náš, že jsme schopni zvolit a trpět takové "šikuly", jako kolem sebe máme (ať jde o bývalé ministry zdravotnictví či jejich náměstky či bývalé nebo jsoucí ministry financí a náměstky ministrů obrany...). Jak říkal můj tatínek - politiky máme takové, jaké si zasloužíme... |
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|  | Doktore, Tebe to fakt překvapuje? Když si to celé zrekapituluješ od začátku až po dnešek? Nesmrdělo to náhodou už dřív? Podle mě smrdělo a hodně.. Vůbec se nedivím.. Jen si budu stát za názorem, že CASA je prostě letadlo na prd a že Spartan by byl lepší.. Jenže, CASA asi někomu prostě vydělala víc.. |
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|  | Ber to tak - Spartan by stál ještě víc a službu by udělal stejnou - žádnou. |
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|  | ...á,pán se asi vyzná....jak v letadle,tak v armádních úkolech.....netvrdím.že to s Casou je v pořádku,ale hanit letadlo jen na základě nějakých informací z médií...pánové....ovšem jak je v čechách zvykem,tady je každej odborník na všechno,že? |
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|  | Nebudu si kazit sváteční den a tak snad jenom že letadlo CASA jsem nehanil a o armádních úkolech si myslím své.
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|  | Nikdo nemá právo nadávat. Ty, kteří tam sedí si pravidelně volíme a je jedno, jestli bude ODSák nadávat, že voliči ČSSD jsou škodná nebo naopak. Prostě za těmahle průserama stojí pořád ta samá pakáž a hlupáci v tomhle státě je volí pořád dál a dál a tak mají asi pocit nesmrtelnosti a nedotknutelnosti a dělají si tyhle kšeftíky a vůbec jim netrhá žíly, že je někdo žaluje. A za pár let dají na plakáty "zajistíme pracovní místa" nebo "řešení místo strašení" a lidi se zase zachovají jako banda volů a zvolí je znova... marné |
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|  | Ty jsi byl volit? |
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|  | Nejen ze je to trapne alibi, tak letosni volby ukazaly, ze je to nepravdive alibi  |
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|  | Jen xichty, jinak nic moc...  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 21:55 | |
|  | Já byl.. Jen jsem chtěl vědět, že jsem idiot že jsem tam šel, a nebo že bych byl idiot, kdybych nešel.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 19:59 | |
|  | Hm. Tonde ma pravdu. Cela EU je na pikacu a jak jsem byl zpocatku spise mirny eurooptimista, tak posledni rok, dva me z toho celkem vylecil... a casy na tom nic nezmeni .) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:44 | |
|  | Já byl v době referenda o tom, jestli půjdeme do Evropy nebo ne v Belgii - a obchodnímu partnerovi jsem si tam vylíval srdce, že si myslím, že je to na pikaču a že kvůli němu bude Česku chybět mé "NE" )))
Od srdce se smál a říkal mi, že si z toho nemám dělat těžkou hlavu, že Evropská unie sice pořád něco nařizuje, ale že oni si z toho stejně nic nedělají, že se vždycky najde způsob, jak to ošvindlovat... Spadla mi brada, i když jsem se snažil vypadat jako světák...
Po návratu domů jsem si trošku víc přečetl o belgické historii a žasl jsem, kolik máme společného. Bohužel...
Nejvíc mě seje, že EU se chová jako RVHP... Chjo... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 29. 10. 2010 / 00:09 | |
|  | To jenom euronaivkové si myslí, že ti soudruzi tam jsou lepší než ti naši zde... Ale je jasné, že socan socanovi věří, i kdyby si měli oči vyklovat...  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:00 | |
|  | Eurozmrdi jsou jenom nasraný, že se nedostali k lizu sami a že jim to vyfoukli lokální zlodějíčci... O nic nejde, jenom by to žašmelil někdo jiný, na koho je hůř vidět. Tak jako tak to zaplatí ten, kdo je pravidelně každý měsíc legálně okraden. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:02 | |
|  | Ironií osudu je fakt, že evropská komise nyní bude chránit peníze českého daňového poplatníka tím, že napaří českému státu pokutu... Takovou ochranu snad raději ani nechtít...  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:07 | |
|  | To mi připomíná éru minulou, jak nás jistá velmoc chtěla chránit před napadením, tím že nás napadla.  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:13 | |
|  | oni ale netvrdili, ze nas chrani pred napadenim z venku. oni nas chranili pred rozkladem zevnitr. i to tvrdili neprekrucovat historicek udalosti .) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:19 | |
|  | EU nás taky chrání před rozpadem zevnitř!  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 29. 10. 2010 / 00:46 | |
|  | No, víš, ona to z jejich úhlu pohedu, cílů a způsobů myšlení byla fakt tragédie a kudla do zad, co se tady v polovině 60. let chystalo. Já celkem rozumím (bacha - neschvaluju!), že to v daný situaci nedovedli řešit jinak, než invazí. Konec konců - takový Švédsko - je víc socialistickej stát, než jsme byli kdy my. "Socialismus s lidskou tváří" (jakkoliv jde o kontradictio in adjecto), pokud by nebyl zastaven hrubou mocí, by nutně musel směřoval k něčemu takovému, jako je teď ve Švédsku... A to jstě každý pochopí, že Brežněv vystát nemohl... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Tak už je tady - Casa 295M 28. 10. 2010 / 23:03 | |
|  | Nadherne receno, velmi nadherne. Libi se mi. |
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