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|  | Prosim vás nevíte kde stáhnout VFR CR?Nemužuto nikde najít.Dík. |
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|  | A co že to přesně je? Ortho, nebo objekty? |
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|  | ja to nestahoval, ale vzhledem k velikosti a ctvercovatosti predpokladam ze orto  |
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|  | uz je to venku tak 3-4 mesice |
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|  | a ted zasadni otazka pro FS9? |
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|  | Sakra, to abych si někde sehnal disketovou jednotku abych si to zase mohl nainstalovat...  |
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|  | provokace?  |
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|  | Radši ne  |
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|  | Ještě by to chtělo usera Tagédie na Péráku  |
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|  | napis SZ koutnemu, on to ukradl takti rekne, kde se to da stahnout... |
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|  | Za tohle by sis zasloužil nakopat do prdele.... |
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|  | Zajímavé. Já bych se jen zeptal, proč jste v té tamté mezinárodní diskuzi nikdo z autorů neodpověděli na tu otázku, kde jste získali tolik leteckých pohledů na ČR? |
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|  | Hmm, docela by me zajimalo jestli jedna jedina ortofota amaterska scenerka je z "legalniho" zdroje. Podle me ne. Googlu tim zadna skoda nevznikla (tezko nekdo zacne pouzivat fsku misto googleearh), takze bych v tom osobne z moralniho hlediska nevidel problem a nema cenu to hrotit. |
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|  | Myslím, že já nic moc nehrotím, naopak se mi zdálo, že hladina agrese zas začíná (celkem zbytečně) bublat. Nicméně na tu otázku v tom anglickém fóru tam zatím pořád nikdo neodpověděl... |
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|  | Já nebublám... já jsem to napsal úplně v klidu.. Jenom my mě zajímalo jak by jsi reagoval ty kdyby tě někdo nazval zlodějem... To je trapné... |
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|  | Záleží na tom, v jaké souvislosti. Myslím, že pokud jsi nutně musel reagovat na Toomitsche, decentnější tón by byl lepší. Nechci tu psát mravokárné poučky, ale kdybychom spolu měli prohozené pozice, takové oslovení by mne v tun chvíli rozhodně nevedlo do protiútoku... |
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|  | Do análního otvoru ho skutečně hned posílat nemusel, na druhou stranu od Toomitsche to popíchnutí taky nebylo nejtaktnější. Navíc ve světle toho, že on sám podle občasného reagování na příspěvky o autogenech taky ortofoto evidentně používá. V žádném případě ho nebudu z ničeho osočovat - možná právě on patří k těm šťastlivcům, kterým se podařilo si orto ČR postahovat a zkompilovat naprosto sami - a tudíž legálně. Já se sám přiznám, že mezi ně nepatřím. Potom, co jsem se o to dlouhé měsíce poctivě pokoušel, postupoval podle dostupných návodů, zkoušel všechna možná i nemožná nastavení a výsledek se nikdy nedal použít, jsem nakonec rezignoval a vzal zavděk Koutného produktem. Klidně po mně hoďte kamenem, kdo jste bez viny, ale myslím, že trocha nadhledu a tolerance z obou stran by neškodila. |
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|  | Něco podobného jsem přece měl namysli. Zastavit zbytečně nadprahové dloubance dřív, než si tady řada mládežníků zavdá na banána. Oboustranně. |
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|  | to ja se to pokousim stahnout pro fsx v roz. 1m/pixel uz mesic a mam ctverce 12,17,19 a delam 22...
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|  | neni to trapne. jen je to nazyvani veci pravymi jmeny. |
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|  | Ja myslim ze to je na moralnim zvazeni kazdyho z nas jestli to poklada za zlodejinu nebo ne. Podle me i kdyby si to stahli vsichni fskari na svete, tak google neprijde ani o dolar zisku pac se tvorbou scenerek nezivi. A zrovna na tohle ortofoto sme si prispeli vsichni z nasich dani (ACR se podle mych informaci o naklady podelila s Geodisem), takze ja bych se citlil okraden kdybych si to nemohl stahnout  |
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|  | jak , ze jsi na to prispel z tvych dani? myslis snad, ze to geodis atd dali googlu (a dalsim, kteri tato data pouzivaji) zadarmo? nikoli ... tohle je komercni produkt, a ty jsi ze svych dani nezaplatil za toto ani korunu.
s tim, ze google neprijde ani o dolar zisku - i kdyby si to stahli vsichni. v tom jsi take trosku mimo. treba proto, ze kdyz si to takhle stahnes, pomoci stahovace, nebo od koutnase, tak nekoukas na stranky google. a nekonzumujes jejich reklamu. |
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|  | Já jsem teď zkonzumoval Letovský řízek a jako fakt dobrý  |
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|  | i kdyz - ted to po sobe ctu a blbe jsem se vyjadril. pokud si to koupila armada (kterou, pravda, ze svych dani platime), tak bez za armadou, at ti ta ortofoto nahraji.
ale google si to od geodisu koupil, takze nevidim jediny duvod, proc by jsi se mel citit okraden, kdyby jsi si to nemohl stahnout prave z google. |
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|  | Podle toho co vim (od cloveka z GS ACR), tak na porizeni toho 0.5m ortofota se financne podilela nase armada - tudiz je to z poloviny nas vsech. Ze je druha pulka komercni me nezjijima - nehodlam resit pravni klicky tohodle prohnilyho systemu, kde poslanci, kteri ty zakony schvalujou kradou a podvadej napric politickym spektrem
Za armadou nepudu protoze mi to nedaji - prohnily system jim to zakazuje. Proc myslis ze KCT uz nema jako podklad svejch map vojensky mapy? Komercni firmy (Shocart, Geodezie) si zalobovali u poslancu ze jim armada kazi ksefty kdyz to dava zadara. Takze fakof system - beru kde se da 
Co se tyce reklam googlu, tak mas castecne pravdu. Ale kazdej clovek leze na google x krat denne, takze fakt o zadnej zisk (pri poctu fskaru) neprijdou, nebo to bude velice zanedbatelny procento.
Spolecenska nebezpecnost jakubova cinu je nulova, tudiz u me je omluven.. Samozrejme ze nikomu neberu pravo na vlastni nazor, nicmene myslim ze nadavky do zlodeju nejsou v tomhle pripade na miste. Nechces orto? Tak neber.. Chces? Stahuj, uzivej a bud vdecnej vsem diky kterejm to mas (Armade, Geodisu, Googlu, Jakubovi) |
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|  | jen k poslednimu bodu .. spolecenska nebezpecnost toho, ze si to koutnas s baresem uvarezili, neni ani tak v tom stazeni samotnem... ale v tom, ze bez skrupuli to vydavaji za svoje autorske dilo, verejne to nabizi ke stazeni, a ze je tu spousta lidi, ktera je za to jeste chvali a vlastne jim vyjadruje uznani. i kdyby zpusobili nulovou primou skodu, tak spolecensky je to vice nez nebezpecne (a ty jsi v tomto pripade typicky priklad)... zacneme obhajovanim kradezi digitalnich dat a skonci to cim? schvaloanim kradezi majetku, nebo (a ted to schvalne trosku prezenu) schvalovanim vrazd?
a k te armade - da se predpokladat, ze armada bude asi velkym a vdecnym uzivatelem techto dat. tak co - mela na vyber dve moznosti - bud si udelat celou ortofoto mapu sama a utratit za to podstatne vic penez, a nebo to koupit - at uz to zaplatila formou normalni koupe dat, nebo se na tvorbe podilela a zaplatila to touto formou. at tak nebo tak, je, da se rict, komercnim uzivatelem. treba na urovni googlu a dalsich kvant ruznych organizaci, spolecnosti a firem, ktera ta data nakoupila. cili ten tvuj argument o zaplaceni z tvych dani je trosku mimo. |
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|  | Hezká demagogie. V tom případě pánbůh s námi za pár let, neboť z celé generace mých dětí (11 a 14) rostou zloději a vrazi bez skrupulí. Neznám totiž nikoho - opakuji NIKOHO z okruhu jejich kamarádů a vrstevníků, kdo by si z netu nestahoval mp3 a videa, případně sám do svých pubertálních blogů nevkládal linky ke stažení. To abychom se s manželkou na noc začali v ložnici zamykat, aby se k nám jednou dcerunky během spánku nepřikradly a nepodřezaly nám hrdla... |
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|  | No .. mozna to bylo lehce demagogicke. ale ty jsi me prekonal - uz jen proto, ze stahovani MP3 (a videi atd) neni v cr nijak nelegalni. |
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|  | Samozřejmě, chtěl jsem ukázat, jak naprosto scestné jsou úvahy tohoto typu a kam až to může vést. |
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|  | Prvni odstavec je typicka demagogie - oba vime ze to se nestane. V zemich kde jsou schvalovany vrazdy a kradeze skutecne nezacinali porusovanim autorskyho zakona 
Co se druhyho tyce, tak ja to tak proste beru - neudelas nic. Ty armadni (statni) mapovy data by mely bejt normalne zadarmo k dispozici - stat je tu pro nas, ne my pro nej. Tot muj nazor, zjevne rozdilny od (nejen) tveho. Tim koncim, nema cenu se hadat  |
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|  | "...zacneme obhajovanim kradezi..."
Nebyl jsi to právě ty, kdo obhajoval ty, kteří po pádu režimu prapodivným způsobem nabyli záhadně velkého množství majetku, který jim nyní patří a je jejich a nikdo jim na to nesmí šáhnout?  |
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|  | To vis ze to byl on a ten strom si tady vsichni pamatujeme A dalsi uz prosim neeee!!!! |
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|  | No já jen, že střílí, jak se mu zrovna hodí... když by měli být poškozeni podnikatelé, tak proboha NE! Ale když by mohli podnikatelé získat (za jakoukoliv cenu), tak samozřejmě dotoho!!! 
Líbí se mi ten rovný přístup (klasická ukázka, že na čem nelze vydělat, to je třeba zrušit, nebo zlikvidovat bez ohledu na mornální hodnotu)  |
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|  | ano byl (a jsem). jenze si trosku pletes jablicka s hrustickama. zatimco u barese a koutnyho je nepochybne, ze kradli, tak u lidi, kteri jsou nahodou zrovna bohatsi nez ty, to tak nutne platit nemusi. jasne, asi ne kazdy z nich je cisty jak lilie, ale ty tvoje kydy ve smyslu asi takovem, ze kazdy, kdo ma vic jak zrezivelou 120ku a byt v panelaku je zlodej, jsou dost mimo. |
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|  | Nikdy jsem nic takového neřek, tak si nevymýšlej U mnohých je evidentní že čistí nejsou a přesto je vše v pořádku a mnozí, jako ty, je obhajují, protože po právní stránce jim není možné nic dokázat Je to fajn, když to tak funguje, žejo?  |
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|  | je mi to totiz celkem ukradeny. nezavdim kazdymu to, ze ma o pul mega drazsi faro a ze bydli ve vile na kraji mesta, a nehledam v tom hned, ze si na to nakradl jako ty. samozrejme, do ty doby, nez se to provali.
jenze ty jsi v onom zminenem vlakne vsechny, kdo maji vic nez ty, smahem oznacil za zlodeje a ja nevim co. a proti tomu jsem se ohrazoval.
ale nema smysl to resit. zavist je hodne oskliva vlastnost. |
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|  | Máš chabé argumenty. Trošku mi to připomíná ZŠ Nicméně souhlasím, že nemá smysl to řešit  |
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|  | "Tragédie v JZD/FSPilot"- toť nikdy nekončící a marný pro obě strany boj.....docela by mně zajímalo,jestli se znáte osobně? |
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|  | Jsou tu někde fotky, kde jsou oba tže asi jo.. |
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|  | Znaj... Traged jednou dovalil na Ostravskej simbir... a nic se nestalo  |
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|  | Byla to celkem sranda  |
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|  | Ale no, sranda... ocekaval se prinejmensim pestny souboj! |
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|  | Oni to tady kluci na nás hrajou, jak do sebe rejpou.. Oni se maj určitě mooooc rádi.. |
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|  | Fuj, do toho mě netahej! Na tyhle záležitosti jsou tu jiní!    |
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|  | Je vidět, na co kdo myslí.. Já to původně nijak "jeníčkovsky" nemyslel..   |
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|  | Já se raději pojistím, kdyby náhodou  |
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|  | Oba dva se jevíte jako velicí sympaťáci,takže věřím,že ta nevraživost je "jen no oko" pro pobavení ostatních. |
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|  | Pohled někdy klame V mnoha názorech se neshodnem, to jakože fakt a oba jsme extrémisti, co se bránění vlastního názoru týče Tragéd má názor, já mám většinou diametrálně odlišný názor a tak to chodí  |
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|  | Zas na druhou stranu se tady našinec nenudí a mnohokráte i pobaví. |
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|  | ...na úkor serióznosti tohoto fóra  |
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|  | No vy dva jste jen kapka v moři.. |
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|  | No, zrovna Tragéd je docela velkej žralok a Ivo mu zdatně sekunduje, byť na něj úplně nemá - viděl bych to na takovou barakudu...  |
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|  | Jenže ani Tomáš, ani Ivošek nejsou dle mého idioti a serióznost fóra nesnižují.. Myslím spíš že naopak.. Na snižování jsou tu jiní experti.. |
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|  | Jo takhle - to souhlasím, i když nechávat je dlouho pohromadě taky nevede k ničemu dobrému, alespoň obvykle. Ale každý zvlášť určitě zvyšuje úroveň fóra velkou měrou, to bez debat.  |
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 |  |  |  | Kde stáhnout VFR CR? 4. 7. 2009 / 19:40 | |
|  | Nepoužíváš to náhodou taky?? |
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