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|  | Všem Plzeňákům dávám na vědomí, že zítra v 15:15 LOC bude dělat prulet nad Lí
ňskym letištěm B17, která pak pokračuje na Milovice. |
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|  | Točte, foťte, reportujte! Tak tohle bych chtěl vidět! |
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|  | Tohle mi ted prislo od naseho vedouciho :
Vážení,
zítra poletí do Milovic B17, která by měla udělat průlet nad RWY 31 v Praze, předpokládané časy jsou níže. V ideálním případě bude doprovázena Gripeny AČR.
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|  | Muzes prosim dat ty predpokladane casy nize Diky moc.. |
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|  | Odlet z letiště LFPM 1100 UTC
EET/LKAA 0305 Rozvadov
trat LKLN - SIERA -TANGO .ALFA -BRAVO -VO - dct Milovice alt 1700 ft QNH doba letu přes osu kolem TWR 3,15 min |
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|  | Ta bude sledovanější, než AF1 Kurňa, ale na tu bych se zajel kouknout hned |
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|  | ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss tak to musim videt |
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|  | A já jsem zrovna v Jenči, takže uvidim hovnoooo... |
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|  | A co myslis, ze uvidim ja v Bratislave...   |
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|  | hovno zatočený třikrát kolem dokola..? Až přijedu na simkofolu, tak můžeme porovnat, kdo ho měl větší.. |
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|  | Ok, spravim nejake fotky...   |
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|  | fotky toho jak si provovnavate, kdo ho ma vetsi? no to snad asi ani videt nemusim    |
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|  | Ale hovnoo..!!  |
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|  | Ty 39tky ho budou doprovázet po celou cestu nad naším územím(tzn. i nad LKLN) nebo jen na LKPR? |
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 |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 15:48 | |
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 |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 18:00 | |
|  | Kde je ideální místo na pozorování týhle "show" u LKLN? |
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 |  |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 18:44 | |
|  | z bombovnice 
/ sorry / |
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 |  |  |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 19:34 | |
|  | Dostaneš mě tam?
/sorry/ |
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|  | Neni 15:35 moc brzo kdyz maj vzlet v 1100UTC? |
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|  | Mam to přímo od navigátora B17 Puvodně jsem dostal info 15:50, pak mi Pčko upřesnil + - 15:35...
Však já to beru orientačně, hlavně že přiletí  |
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 |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 20:52 | |
|  | Proč sem přiletí? Taky bych to chtěl vidět |
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|  | No jo, to je ta co měla být na Memorial Air Show..
Z ofiko stránek:
"Ačkoliv jsme v přátelském vztahu s piloty obou typů a o účast jsme usilovali, tak to dopadlo jinak. Jediná létající B-17 v Evropě ta v Anglii má dolétaný 1 motor ) do ČR přiletí zítra, bude tady měsíc, ale musí zpět do Francie na armádní letecký den, který je ve stejném termínu jako MAS. To samé je s B-25."
Kurnik |
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 |  |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 21:52 | |
|  | Letí si zahrát ve filmu "Red Tails". |
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 |  |  |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 23. 4. 2009 / 21:55 | |
|  | hustý! |
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|  | Nafoť další - a další !!! (a dej sem link, prosím ) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 24. 4. 2009 / 10:56 | |
|  | Jak budu mít chvilku čas zase něco hodim |
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|  | Co to má ten Mustang na posledním obrázku za pneumatiky? Nezdá se mi že bych tam viděl klasický s drážkováním po obvodu, ale takovej "terénní" vzorek. Co to je zač? |
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|  | To jsou special gumy ze čtyřkolky a daleko na něm nedoletíš |
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|  | hehe
ale bez tech pneumatik se to nepozna, co? Fakt perfektne udelany... |
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|  | Jo jsou pěkně udělaný Jednoho si beru po natáčení domů,potřebuji na skalku nějakou malou dekoraci a trpaslík je strašně profláklej |
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 |  |  | 24.4.průlet B17 nad LKLN 24. 4. 2009 / 13:56 | |
|  | má někdo zasvěcené informace, jestli už třeba letí? |
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|  | Odlet posunut na 1300UTC. |
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|  | Takže v Milovicích kolem 17:00 LOC ? |
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|  | teď je est 14:24 rozvadov |
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|  | Teď tady proletěl nad LKPR |
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|  | Tomu říkám idylka: Páteční podvečer, sluníčko svítí, ptáci zpívají, já pokojně a trochu znuděně zalévám kytky kolem svého domu v Kralupech, když tu mi nad hlavou s charakteristikým hřmotem několikrát proletí formace tří vojenských letadel. Na chvíli zmizí z dohledu a když trochu utichne zvuk jejich motorů, začne se vynořovat o dost hlubší burácení. Je jasné, že to bude něco velkého. A za několik okamžiků už ji vidím - B17 v celé svojí kráse. Tři letouny, které předtím kroužily kolem, se k ní připojují a společně ještě dvakrát obletí okolí mého bydliště, než definitivně zmizí za obzorem. A já si říkám, že takhle bych mohl zahradničit každý den... 
Na závěr jedna otázka pro lépe informované: Tvořily ten doprovod dva Gripeny a jedna Alca, nebo jsem špatně koukal? |
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|  | Na planes.cz píšou, že průlet v nejpočetnějším obsazení by se měl skládat z B-17ky, 2 Gripenů, 3 Mustangů a 1 Moravy, ale jak to bylo doopravdy nevím. |
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|  | Přiletěla v doprovodou 2x gripen,1x L159 ( ? ) nevím,na dálku jsem ji nepoznal.L200 morava přiletěla v závěsu.Pak se přidal 3x P51 a původní doprovod se odpoutal.A pak to začalo.2x průlet B17 + P51 pak přistání B17.Mezitím 3x průlet 3x P51 a pak přistání po jednom......co více si přát.  |
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|  | Tak to je nádherný..lepší než CIAF.  |
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|  | Tak tak, byla to opravdu nádhera! Jenom jsem nepochopil ty policajti... |
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|  | Při tom přistání v Milovicích, měla pořád zdechlý motor č.3 nebo se ji ho povedlo nahodit ještě za letu? |
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|  | Aha, tak to asi stihli nahodit. Podle toho co jsem slyšel na 130,600 při kroužení nad Benátkami, kdy se dali do formace s Mustangy, jim při druhém okruhu chcípnula "trojka", takže to stočili přímo na Milovice.
Jinak dvě perličky:
- po průletu nad dráhou 10 ve Vodochodech zahlášeno "Bombs away!".
- Gripeny se museli od skupiny oddělit už nad Benátkami pro nedostatek paliva (podle tónu je to dost mrzelo ale palivo už bylo evidentně nadoraz).
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|  | Jak jako "bombs away"..?! Vždyť já mám na LKVO školu.. Lidi neblbněte.. A foták tam mám.. A plno věcí.. To jako nééé, tohle.. Já jim dám "bombs away" že jim bude B-17 malá..
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|  | Ne-e, pri pruletu mel pokles tlaku paliva a tojka mu chcipla, sedal jen na tri.
A tak nam s Jaakovem zacala sluzba... |
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|  | V poslední době zjišťuju, že závist je fakt hrozná věc.. |
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|  | co je na tom k zavideni ? |
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|  | Copak, není tam skleněná cessna, tak tě to nebere..?
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|  | No nevim.Já tom mam natočený a evidentně mu šly všechny motory. |
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|  | Me se zda, ze mas na cipu smitko. |
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|  | A kdyby jedno 
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|  | Aspon dokumentacne, foceno u nadrze Jiviny. Necekal jsem, ze poleti tak tesne a tak jsem se uz podruhe neprodiral repkou na lepsi flek, kde jsem na ni cekal driv odpoledne.
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|  | ani sebelepší fotka nemůže nahradit ten zážitek vidět něco tak úžasnýho |
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|  | Krásný fotky, taky jednu přihazuju. Ale znáte to...plocha je plocha  |
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|  | Paráda, moc pěkný fotky |
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|  | Dovolil bych si pár foteček pro pochlubení. |
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|  | Hele draku, ty tam mas u me jeste vroubek... |
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|  | Plzeň, 24.4.2009, 17:45 LOC : Téměř přesně na den (25.4.1945) se nad Plzní po 64 letech objevila létající pevnost B17G Flying Fortress. Tentokrát už nezaznělo hrozivé "Bombs away!" nýbrž "Ahoj kluci, zdravíme Plzeň, dnes žádné bomby nebudou, tenhle průlet je oslava a je pro vás, pro všechny"..., poté následuje průlet nad RWY06 LKLN , krátké defilé nad Plzní a kousek za Letkovem se loučíme, Vlado už nám z kabiny B17 hlásí, že Gripeni čekají
Sedmnáctka pokračuje na Beroun, LKPR ...... Milovice, ale od tud už reportáž od Lowmicka 
Musim říct že to byl neskutečně silný zážitek vidět pár metrů od sebe tento létající skvost jak ladně, elegantně a majestátně pluje vzduchem.
Touto cestou ještě jednou děkuji posádce B17 za možnost letu ve skupince, specielně Tobě Vlado P.! Díky!!! |
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|  | Moc pěkné..! Jsem teď dostal echo, že budeš mít air to air fotky tak jsem se těšil, až je uvidím..! Fakt paráda..! |
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|  | Taky jsem se pokoušel, ale marně...  |
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|  | Dobrý den,
je jisté, že se jedná o B-17 ve verzi "G"? Pokud mne mé podklady neklamou, všechna "G" již měla dvojici kulometů v "podbradku" pod přídí a poněkud jiné ocasní střeliště (dál jsem ty fotky nestudoval). Podle mého amatérského odhadu se jedná o verzi "F" z ranější série - pozdější (od čísla 42-3504) již měly zmíněné podbradky. Je fakt, že číslo na SOP patřilo skutečně Géčku, které bylo vyrobeno během roku 1944 v 85. sérii (44-8801/44-8900) v závodech Lockheed Vega. Ovšem to mohlo vzniknout tak, že to letadlo ve filmu "hraje/hrálo" jiné.
Ocením, pokud mne vyvedete z omylu, abych si opravil to, co je v pro mne dostupné literatuře špatně. Předem mnohokrát děkuji.
Vladimír Steffan |
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|  | Podle mého názoru je to opravdu G jen má sundanou a zadeklovanou spodní věž na čumáku.
Na některých fotkách je to vidět.
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|  | Převzato z komentářů z Planes.cz
"To je známá francouzská mašina. Pokud by tě zajímala celá její historie tak to někde najdu, kdysi to bylo v LK. Jinak tahle mašina byla po válce demilitarizována a dlouhou dobu létala u francouzského geografického institutu nebo jak se to jmenovalo, létalo tam několik B17 společně s PBY5. Makety střeleckých věží dostala až v rámci natáčení filmu Memphis Bell, kde hrála např."Matku a vlast" a další. Makety věží měli přestavovat verzi F, proto nebyla dodána spodní BENDIX. Až na některé drobné úpravy nese svoji filmovou podobu do teď. Jinak když si všimneš maket výzbroje tak ty ani neodpovídají tomuto stroji, tato B-17 byla původně již s novějším ocasním střelištěm Cheyenne, maketa horní střelecké věže je také staršího typu, které se na Géčkách nepoužívaly a střeliště v prostoru bombometčíka a radisty jsou také upravena do podoby F nepočítaje některá okénka navíc. Jinak nese své původní No. a to 44-8846 což je přesně verze G-85-VE. V.V." |
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|  | Díky za perfektní a zajímavý výklad |
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|  | Děkuji za upřesnění. Již jsem si Vámi poskytnuté informace doplnil do svého archivu. Ještě jednou díky.
Vladimír Steffan |
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