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|  | No tak pilot kterej v tomhle přistane, tak to je teda machr, já už bych dávno panikařil kde je RWY (no ale znáte tu věcičku který se nadává ILS, tak proto tady asi je ) |
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 |  |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 13:53 | |
|  | No ona je ještě věcička, které se říká Autopilot a když umí tzv. Autoland, tak je to ještě lepší a pak se do takových situací může Nejsem si teď jistý, ale bez zapnutého AP na takové minima pilot ručně nesmí, je to tak? |
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 |  |  |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 15:52 | |
|  | Je to tak, CAT I se může letět na ruku celý, CAT II se musí letět přiblížení na autopilota a samotné přístání může být v ruce a u CAT III se přistává na autoland. |
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|  | aha a tedy kazdy letadlo a kazde letiste je schvaleny na nejaky CAT? Definovany to bude asi v AIPu ze? Jak je na tom TU154, to asi muze jen CATII, kdyz nema utolad co? dikes  |
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|  | Jo, a ještě k tomu posádka musí mít kvalitfikaci pro konkrténí CAT. Co se týče toho Tůčka, tak bez autolandu nemůže ani CAT IIIa. |
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|  | Já myslím, že by ani nechtělo Ale vehykl je to krásný. |
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|  | a kde se da zjistit, kdyz se blizim k letisti jestli podminky na nem jsou na CAT I, II nebo III? Vim ze letim v eru s CAT II, vim ze pristavam na letisti, na kterym je mozny pristavat i v CAT III, ale kde se dozvim, jestli ta mlha co tam je je uz treba CAT III, cili musim letet do pryc? Rikaj to v ATISu? |
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|  | V ATISu říkají všecko, ale na tobě je abys věděl podmínky pro CAT I/II/III a podle toho soudil. |
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|  | Aha, takze je nekde napsao, ze kdyz je dohledost tolik a tolik, je to CAT III? A ja si a zaklade popisu pocasi z ATISu urcim co to je za CAT? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Low visibility landing video 18. 7. 2008 / 08:58 | |
|  | Jo, ty podmínky pro určitě kategorie jsou přesně dané.
Cat I: DH ne méně než 200 ft, VIS (dohlednost) ne menší než 800 m nebo RVR (dráhová dohlednost) ne menší než 550 m
CAT II: DH min 100 ft, RVR min 300 m
CAT III A: DH min 50 ft, RVR min 200 m
CAT III B: DH méně než 50 ft nebo vůbec, RVR menší než 200 m, ale větší než 75 m.
CAT III C: DH i RVR může být 0 (masakr )
Pokud jsou podmínky pro CAT II nebo CAT III, tak se do ATISu zavádí zpráva Low visibility procedures, takže piloti vědí, jak to vypadá. Navíc se k tomu rovnou udává i RVR, kterou mají k dispozici i řídící a předávají ji pilotům v průběhu přiblížení. Přičemž pilot může pokračovat až do outer markeru, pokud je RVR nižší než je možná (je třeba 200 m, ale má jen CAT II). Pokud v outer markru se RVR nezvedne na požadované minumum, musí provést postup nezdařeného přiblížení a zkusit to ještě jednou, jestli se to nevylepší a nebo divertovat.
Pokud v outer markeru bude potřebná RVR, pokračuje až do DH, bez ohledu na to, jak se mění RVR v průběhu finálního přiblížení. A v DH buď vidí nebo ne a podle toho se zařídí 
Lovim to z hlavy, tak pokud jsem něco zvoral, tak mě opravte  |
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|  | A co letadla, která jsou certifikovaná pro CAT III, a nemají autothrottle? |
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|  | A existuje vůbec takové letadlo? Já nevím, ptám se Ale pokud mě paměť nešálí, tak mimo jiných mnoho podmínek pro certifikaci této kategorie musí být letadlo autothrottle vybaveno, takže letadlo by bez toho certifikát na CAT III nedostalo Ale můžu se mýlit  |
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|  | Pokud jsou certifikovaný pro CAT III, tak mají autoland a musejí mít teda i logicky autothrottle. |
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|  | Tá jo fakt ?? A jak si říkal že se to jmenuje, něco jako Autoland ?? tak to jsem dřív výhradně používal, ale ted si užívám manuálu  |
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|  | Já autolandu využívám, když mi FPS klesne pod "bezpečnou mez" a nedokázal bych to ručně posadit. Občas je to třeba v LKPR, jak mám 3 FPS, tak se to už jaxi dost dobře posadit nedá Autoland to krásně vyřeší  |
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|  | No sice jsem to nechtěl psát, ale já to používal za těch samých podmínek Ted jsem si trošku pohrál s nastavením grafiky v FSce a autoland na LKPR už nikdy víc !!  |
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|  | jj svata pravda ! Ray pri jednom evente som mal taktiez FPS minimalne a na ruku som to zvoral tak dalsi okruh som siel na autoland
btw: moze byt situacia ked je lietadlo vybavene CAT III a,b,c a kvoli pocasiu nemoze ajtak pristat ? Moze to byt napriklad kvoli vetru ?
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|  | Může Autopilot nezvládá silnější poryvy větru (přesné čísla nevím, to se liší typ od typu a taky záleží na autopilotovi, jak je udělaný) a tak se může stát, že při třeba silném bočním nárazu větru se odpojí a jen to zapípá a leť si dál jak chceš. |
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 |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 19:08 | |
|  | Teda ) jak se pak dostanou ven z runwaye ke gate!? Vždyť neni pořádně viďet ani na zem a už vůbec né na tabulky s označením twys..smekám..  |
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 |  |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 19:54 | |
|  | To je právě jeden z důvodů, proč se nepoužívá C kategorie. Kdyby se letadlu něco stalo, tak by museli hasiči udělat rojnici a pročesávat letiště, aby ho vůbec našli  |
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 |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 19:50 | |
|  | ty woe ! vtedy musite elektronike a ILS doverovat
btw: preco ich nenechali divertoat na nejake ine letisko ???? Prio takejto dohladnosti je to povinnost alebo nie ? |
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|  | Jak jsi mohl vidět, dostali se bezpečně na zem, takže byli na takové podmínky vycvičení Divertovat by museli, pokud by neměli na toto výcvik, nebo nebylo letadlo a letiště na takové podmínky certifikované. Ale všechno to splnili, takže společnost tak nepřišli o obrovské finance  |
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 |  |  |  | Low visibility landing video 18. 7. 2008 / 09:20 | |
|  | A proč? O čem se tady celou dobu píše? Jsou kategorie přiblížení s různými dohlednostmi až po nulovou a pokud je letiště, letadlo i posádka na to certifikována, může bezpečně přistát. Kdyby bylo povinností divertovat, tak by divertovali. |
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 |  |  | Low visibility landing video 17. 7. 2008 / 21:19 | |
|  | Jako to přistání do nikam je hustý.. Ale jak jsem na to tak koukal, tak nejvíc se mi to kupodivu nelíbilo až na zemi.. Prostě jsem čekal, že se tam vynoří barák nebo náklaďák nebo tak něco.. V luftě mi to přišlo o dost bezpečnější..
Vím že to je ale celý kravina..   |
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|  | takovýhle fajn počasí bylo zhruba v jednu ve Štokholmu mlha + tma mno .... dobrý kafe |
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 |  |  | Low visibility landing video 18. 7. 2008 / 12:47 | |
|  | nieco podobne som zazil na IVAO vnoci pri pristavani na Luthon |
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|  | A to je co za letiste? Tam delaji Athlony? |
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