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|  | Prosim o radu skusenejsich.
Mam na starom PC AVG, platim za upgrade cca 200 kc rocne (sleva pro ZZ)
Teraz som kupil novy notebook HP a mam tam Norton IS.
Zda sa mi ten Norton lepsi - hlasi mi to pokusy o napadnutie a rizikove stranky (napr airdisaster.com !?!?), ale mam ho asi mesiac a uz mi to hlasi, ze licencia vyprsi za 28 dni a chce po mne kupit upgrade na jeden rok za 66 Euro co sa mi zda dost v porovnai s AVG.
Je v tom taky obrovsky kvalitativny rozdiel ze sa mi to oplati ? Mam si nechat ten Norton IS ??? alebo aj do Notebooku dat AVG ?
diky
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 |  |  | Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:30 | |
|  | Dulezite je, pro jaky operacni system.
Jinak, ja bych ani Nortonu uz neveril, jedine NOD nebo Kaspersky, to je kvalita. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:32 | |
|  | mam win XP
ten NOD chvali skoro kazdy .....
cim to ze je taky dobry ? |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:35 | |
|  | Rychla kontrola, rezidenttni stit zatezuje PC snad nejmin ze vsech AV, promptni aktualizace... pusobi proste takovym luxusnim dojmem A pod Visty je to taky jedina moznost mit v PC fungujici antivir, ktery nekoliduje s ostatnima aplikacema a jadrem zabezbepeceni Vist, v pripade FS s Ivapem, ktery s jinymi AV uspesne pada. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:45 | |
|  | Já mám Avast a pod Vistou včetně spolupráce s FS a IVAPem v pohodě.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:50 | |
|  | Avast je úplně zadarmo a poskytne mi rovnako účinnů ochranu ako Norton , AVG alebo NOD ?!?!? To sa mi nejak nezdá... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 14:24 | |
|  | Nevim, jestli je stejně dobrej jako NOD, resp. mám s ním lepší zkušensoti..
Vím, že kombinace NOD, Vista 64 a IVAP byla pro posledního jmenovaného smrtelná..
Avast je grátis pro domácí použití, akorát po roce užívání je potřeba vygenerovat nové heslo.
Od doby, co jsem nainstalil Avast, se mi první vir do kompu dostal asi po 5-ti měsících. S NODem na XPčkách mu to trvalo ani ne dva dny..
Jak mi psal Eddie včera po ICQ, výrobci virů se zatim pořád ještě specializují na XPčka.. Vista pro ně zatim není zajímavá, takže je jen asi otázkou času, než se na to hoši podívají podrobně a začnou chrlit škůdce i pro Vistu. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:44 | |
|  | asi si mene surfoval po urcitych strankach 
Jinak dobra volba je komplet od ESETu vc. firewallu. Ja ho ted pouzivam ve zkusebni verzi a zatim naprosta spokojenost a premyslim o koupi rovnou na dva roky. Ta cena neni spatna a co se tyce NODu, tak v testech anticiru vychazi vzdy nejlepe. Dokonce autori zapracovali do verze 3 nejake zmeny a PC zatezuje jeste mene....Ale at se rozhodnes pro NOD nebo pro Avast, tak tve PC ochranni "dostatecne" pokud nebudes denne surfovat po tisicich strankach s warezem, erot. obsahem a dalsich, kde se viry vyskytuji v hojne mire. Samozrejme pokud vis o zabezpeceni PC dost, tak nemusis mit ani antivir a muzes vesele brouzdat bez viru nekolik let atd... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 14:18 | |
|  | Hmm, tak jim to napis do toho dlooouhyho threadu na Ivao foru...zatim to byli schopni rozjet bud bez AV, nebo jen s NOD32. Ja sem taky zkousel Kasperskyho a neslo to. NOD v pohode. Ale je pravda, ze se to tam kazdymu chovalo jinak, nekomu to nejelo ani bez AV. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:39 | |
|  | Btw. to ze ti Norton hlasi ty upozorneni muze byt taky tim, ze to muze byt balik i s firewallem, kterej si tohle pak hlida, popr. nejakej antispyware stit. AVG pokud vim je jen AV. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 14:07 | |
|  | AVG dneska dělá spoustu balíků, samostatný antivir, antimalware, firewall.
Záleží na konkrétní edici koupené / instalované edici.
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:43 | |
|  | cim to z eje tak dobry? tim ze ma dobry marketing a nekdo to o nem kdysi zacal tvrdit a pak se to s nim uz nese ... to je duvod proc je "tak dobry"... jinak mezi antiviry neni zasadni rozdil, vsechny jsou vicemene stejne dobre a drobne rozdily netreba resit.. a ve vsech pripadech jsou to vyhozene penize.
tyhle antiviry, to je jedna velka bublina, ktera snad jednou splaskne.... pro kazdyho, alespon trosku inteligentniho uzivatele (cili takovyho, ktery vi, ze nema klikat na exe soubory v mailu a spoustet neznamy exe soubory z internetu), naprosto s prehledem plne dostacuje kombinace windows firewallu + windows defenderu + pravidelne aktualizace windows. jedine, kde maji antiviry (za penize) opodstatneni, je firemni prostredi. ale pro domaciho uzivatele s inteligenci medvidka pu a vyssi jsou to vyhozene penize.
porizovani nejakyho antiviru za vic jak 10 Kc je vyhazovani penez. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:48 | |
|  | widnows defender je ve verzi Vista only, takze XP user ma celkem smulu. to same plati o windows firewallu, zakladni nastaveni je docela na pytel a i kdyz v XP SP2 je uz jakstak dobra volba, tak stale to neni dostatecne a nemusis spoustet ani exe z mailu ani exe z netu, abys nejakeho cerva nedostal...Zabezpeceni PC pro nekoho, kdo rozumi PC je hrackou, ale pro bezneho uzivatele tezko, tak aby byl chranen na 99% jako ty... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:51 | |
|  | nesir tady bludy, windows deffender je samozrejme jak pro visty, tak pro xp (a windows 2003).
a windows firewall je v defaultnim nastaveni dostatecnou a ucinnou ochranou proti utokum z netu. uz na xp, na vista totez. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:31 | |
|  | Musím 100% souhlasit. Již leta používám kombinaci Kerio Personal FW (ještě v předpotopní free 2.1.5 verzi) + Windows FW + aktualizace Win a vir jsem zatím (klepu na dřevo) nechytil.
Jednou za čas (když se začne něco chovat divně a mám podezření na vir) si projedu kompletní test NODem a zjistím, že žádný vir tam není (a tudíž nutno hledat příčinu "divného" chování jinde ). |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:43 | |
|  | z vlastni zkusenosti muzu doporucit Kaspersky InternetSecurity2007. Mam ho jiz rok k plne spokojenosti - extremne casta aktualizace virove baze, dokonala heuristika, male naroky na systemove zdroje /v porovnani s AVG si Symantecem/a v neposledni rade i velmi prizniva cena diky kurzu USD (vychazi levneji nez NOD) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:45 | |
|  | 30 denni evaluation trial NODu vychazi jeste levneji ) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 17:24 | |
|  | samozrejme ze si o sebe myslim, ze mam inteligenci o malo vyssi nez medvidek Pu, takze sa na antivir asi vykaslem uplne
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 22:26 | |
|  | Pouzijes tedy novej inteligentni antivirak " Intuice v1.0 " |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 22:48 | |
|  | Prý už vyšla verze 2.0  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 23:11 | |
|  | zato ty tech antiviru potrebujes minimalne deset.. a mozna ani to v tvym pripade nebude dostatecna ochrana. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 7. 1. 2008 / 00:15 | |
|  | Zboznuju tvuj smysl pro humor To zase ne, deset si jich instalovat nebudu, ja byl nedavno na skoleni MS a ten chlapik co nas ucil ( mel pravdepodobne o chloupek vetsi inteligenci, nez brouk pytlik ) nam rikal, ze se to nema kombinovat, tak ja si necham jen ten jeden Kazdopadne i tak dekuji za radu Mimochodem, az na par " detailu " mel ohledne AV vcelku podobne nazory jako ty. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 23:10 | |
|  | pokud se ti s pocitacem nehrajou deti (nebo manzelka? .) , tak je to reseni, ktereho se neni nejak treba obavat... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 20:30 | |
|  | Tak mi rekni, jak ty poznas pouhym podivanim se na soubor, jestli je v nem vir nebo ne. Potom by sis teda mohl zridit sakra vyhodnou zivnost, patenotvat to a vyucovat to. Protoze to o cem ty mluvis, je brouzdani po netu, ano, ja taky 95% casu co sem na PC antivir pustenej vubec nemam, protoze to akorat zbytecne zatezuje, a taky sem vira takhle nikdy nechytil. Ale kdy je AV uzitecnej je tehdy, pokud proste musis z netu tahat ruzny soubory manualne (a ne ze by jich treba jen pro FS bylo malo). V tu chvili ho zapinam a vse co stahuju rucne jde pres kontrolu. Kdyz uz by ho AV nezachytil vcas, aspon mi rekne, ze tam neco je a muzu podle toho jednat. Takze mi rekni jak tohle ty udelas bez softu?
btw. to srovnani AVG vs Norton vs Kaspersky nemam z zadnejch reklamnich zvastu, ale z ciste praxe, kdy mi Norton na jasne zavirovanym PC nic nehlasil a Kaspersky vse nasel a dokonce do urcite miry dokaze odstranit i s registry, ne jen soubory. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 20:48 | |
|  | jak? intuice? do fsky jsem vzdy stahoval z celkem duveryhodnych zdroju (fsnordic, avsim, periskop) a nikdy jsem to nejak neresil ... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 20:50 | |
|  | No jo, ale promin, to, ze budu predpokladat, ze tam vir proste neni neni antivirova ochrana. |
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|  | nejsem prehnane paranoidni ... spis naopak, ridim se tim, kdyz muzu opravnene predpokladat ze dany soubor zavirovany neni ... a to, kdy si tim jist muzu byt a kdy ne, je celkem jasne.. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:24 | |
|  | ja mam NOD 32 placeny a je to super antivirak, sice je trochu drahsi nez AVG ale neviem ich porovnat lebo AVG nemam |
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 |  |  | Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 13:38 | |
|  | Dobrej je AVAST a je free |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 14:44 | |
|  | Potvrzuji. Nevím sice jak moc je AVAST učinný, ale používám ho a jsem plně spokojen. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:00 | |
|  | Nápodobně, za ty peníze je super  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 21:04 | |
|  | Mně Avast ještě nikdy nenašel vir na disku, všechny zastavil už během brouzdání po internetu.
Ale než spustim FSku tak vždycky vypínám rezidentní ochranu protože mi dost zpomalovala simulátor. |
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 |  |  | Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:21 | |
|  | Každý bude prosazovat, co má on. Nejde snadno srovnávat, když každý máme PC na jiné věci a lezeme na jiné stránky... Můžeš mít něco free a pokud nejsi erotoman, s virem se nesetkáš. A můžeš mít super drahej soft a stejně ti nepomůže. Já mám kupovanej Norton, jsem spokojen. Vysloveně vira jsem neměl asi 5 let. Jen mě zaskočilo, že Norton po roce odmítá aktualizovat databáze a chce další peníze. To mi přijde dost nefér. Řeším to tak, že každej rok stejně reinstaluju PC a pak mám i pro Nortona další rok navíc Ty máš zřejmě jen nějakou "tryout" verzi.
Tak jako tak je dobrý doplnit antivir ještě nějakým "antiSpyem" - třeba Lavasoft Ad-Aware je pro osobní užití zdarma a je velmi schopný. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:02 | |
|  | Co se týče antiSpye, po několika testováních všemožných programů kdysi ve škole nemohu než doporučit Spybot - Search and Destroy. |
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 |  |  | Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 15:23 | |
|  | No volba Norton IS vs AVG je asi jasna, jednoznacne Norton. A jestli chces uplne neco jinyho, tak NOD32 " protoze to kazdej rika " Co ale sleduju na forech, tak treba Condorari s tim maji nejake problemy v mp atd. Ale nikdy jsem to na hdd nemel, takze pouze teoretizuju a hodnotim podle toho jedna pani povidala. Nortona pouzivam nekolik let a da se rict, ze jsem s tim nikdy vetsi problem nemel. Jen si osobne myslim, ze tyhle vsechny rady jsou ti stejne k nicemu, kazdej uzivatel si vetsinou chvali to, s cim je sam osobne spokojenej, nekdo treba nechytne 5 let vira s AVG, protoze neleze na porno a jine internetove " pochutiny ", takze je spokojenej s AVG Nekdo prosmejdi kazdou zumpu, tak je treba nespokojenej i s NODem atd. Idealni pro tebe asi je, najit si stranku kde se hodnoti ucinnost AV v nejake tabulce a rozhodnout se sam. |
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 |  |  | Re: Antivir 6. 1. 2008 / 16:55 | |
|  | hej, takisto spokojnosť s NOD32 plus mám ešte Spybot SD, ktorý je free |
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