|  |  | 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 12:03 | |
|  | zdravim... dneska sem kus koumal časový plán odletů na Ruzyni... a napočítal jsem 103 odletů během 120 minut... jak je to vůbec reálné? jenom na skeneru slyšim "CSA###, Ruzyně Tower dobrý den, you're number seven" ... a samý immediate departure... ta nová dráha je potřeba jako sůl  |
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 |  |  | Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 13:16 | |
|  | Nejsi sám, kdo si to myslí. Paralelní dráha by letišti za současného provozu dost ulehčila a navíc by zvedla i kapacitu. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 13:26 | |
|  | Teď jsem se zase doma trochu vrátil k AI a tak si dovolím jednu otázku z virtuálu: Máte někdo zkušenosti, zda tohle zvládne AI? Já velká éra nelétám a žádné AI balíčky nepoužívám. Jen by mně to zajímalo od lidí, co mají zkušenosti.
Díky za odpověď. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 17:35 | |
|  | Ani nahodou.
AI ATC totiz dava moc velky mezery, takze kdyz je neco na finale, i kdyz by v pohode jedno ero stihnulo odstartovat, ATC na runway nic nepusti. Zaroven, kdyz musi neco preject aktivni drahu, ktera je plne vytizena, TOWER to nebere v potaz a nenecha tam misto na prejeti. A to to GROUND zacne zastavovat uz nekde pul kilometru pred krizenim.
Ja pouzivam Adobe AI a treba ve Frankfurtu na 25R to GROUND naviguje z obou stran. Jenze kdo je poslanej k levymu holding pointu, musi 25R nejdriv preject a to je naprosto neresitelny.
Takze kdyz uz nekdy sem takovej masochista, ze odlitam z Frankfurtu, musim pockat, az to prede mnou vsechno postupne zmizi a pak prejedu drahu bez povoleni a zbytek v poho.
Jeste je tady moznost, ze je nejaka chyba v AFCADu Frankfurtu, ale nemyslim, protoze i v defaultnim Bostonu me jednou GROUND zastavil v pulce rolovani, ze prej Boeing 737 na finale, pet minut se nic nedelo a pak kdesi v dalce pristal B737, odroloval nekam buh vi kam a ja moh jet dal. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 13:37 | |
|  | No ulehcila jen trochu a to veznikovi ale jinak letisti by to ve vysledku neulehcilo..Letiste neni nafukovaci a uz s jednou drahou neni v 11 hodin kam ty letadla stavet.Co bychom si pomohli jeste s druhou drahou.Zjistujeme ze vic nez druhou drahu potrebujem APRON.. ))Je fakt ze kdyby byla druha draha tak by se asi komfortneji ridil provoz ale chudak GROUND a vubec odbaveni apod.... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 14:07 | |
|  | Tak ona kdyby Správa nedávala kdejaký aerolince ty nejluxusnější sloty, ale v rámci zachování rozumného vytížení tlačila méně důležité dopravce do slotů jiných, tak by se nemuselo IMHO ani nic stavět a letadla bys měl i kam postavit. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 14:00 | |
|  | To jsou jenom kecy. Draha neni nutna, vzdyt nemas ty letadla kam davat Dokud se nevyresi problemy s rozsirenim terminalu a pridanim novych stojanek, tak stejne drahou zvysis max papirove kapacitu, ale stejne to nikam nedas...Druha draha bude mit tu vyhodu v tom, ze by snad mely byt lepe resene rychle vyjezdy, takze letadla budou na draze kratsi cas, tot vse... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 14:53 | |
|  | Tak se udělá z 13/31 stojánka, jak tomu je z 22/04  |
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 |  |  | Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 13:38 | |
|  | Realne to je samozrejme.Je fakt ze sem se ted na DEC trochu zapotil.. )) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 17:52 | |
|  | 120,525 PRAHA RADAR ?? takže eproucnik je realný dispečer? týbrdo.. to jsem netušil, je tu víc takových ? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 17:59 | |
|  | No jasne!
neni to tak davno, co tady vsichni slintali na fotky jeho zeny  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 18:10 | |
|  | Coze? Olinka uz je jeho zena? Sakra, zase pozde...  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 18:31 | |
|  | jj... jak zívala a v pozadí ta 747 pamatuju... mimochodem ona má opravdu pěkný hlas, poslouchá se ze všech dispečerů nejlíp... má takový zvláštní přízvuk v tý angličtině a dost odpovídá i na takovýto "a přeju hezký večer madam", což řada nikoli... jen ji moc poslední dobou neslýchávám... těch dispečerů tam bude asi hafo |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 19:10 | |
|  | Ten prizvuk v te anglictine bude asi tim ze je slovenka ))A je to skoro zena...Jeste to nemame papirove...(ale uz tomu moc nechybi )) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 19:28 | |
|  | ja to v koutku tušil že je to Slovenka že pozdravuju )) jinak přeju pěkný večer |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 23:21 | |
|  | Že se nestydíš, to napsat takhle veřejně a mě o tom nenapsat ani čárku..
Natož nás pozvat na veselku, aby jsme se taky po dlouhý době pořádně najedli a napili.. (myslím tím nás dva se Sašou.. ) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 08:19 | |
|  | Matysku,vsak vis ze ty bys byl mezi prvnimi koho bych pozval.A kdyz ne ja tak Oli urcite.Zkazila mi tim prece cele narozeniny   |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 10:17 | |
|  | Tyyyy prolhaný severočeský skunku.. Zúčtujeme spolu, to si piš..!!
Hade..! |
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 |  |  | Re: 103 odletů za 120min 7. 12. 2007 / 21:49 | |
|  | A nebyly tam započítaný i codesharový lety (pro každý kód 1 odlet, přičemž ve skutečnosti je třeba pět kódů jeden odlet)? |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 04:34 | |
|  | uff.. se omlouvam.. v tom se nevyznam... www.prg.aero - odlety - čas, společnost, kam ... prostě jsem spočítal řádky |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 06:51 | |
|  | No tak tos pocital i codeshary... Napr:
06:25 AC9129 Frankfurt (Německo) Air Canada Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 TP7937 Frankfurt (Německo) TAP Air Portugal Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 UA8734 Frankfurt (Německo) United Airlines Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 USA5653 Frankfurt (Německo) US Airways Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
Todle leti jedno ero, ale je to codeshare 4 spolecnosti. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 06:52 | |
|  | Pardon, zapomel jsem zkopirovat ten prvni, nejdulezitejsi radek Takze 5 spolecnosti...
06:25 LH3267 Frankfurt (Německo) Deutsche Lufthansa Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 AC9129 Frankfurt (Německo) Air Canada Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 TP7937 Frankfurt (Německo) TAP Air Portugal Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 UA8734 Frankfurt (Německo) United Airlines Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30
06:25 USA5653 Frankfurt (Německo) US Airways Terminál 2 CLOSED Odletělo 06:30 |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 08:49 | |
|  | Todle jsem nějak nikdy nepochopil, když na letišti hlásí že za deset minut odlétá letadlo společnosti Lufthansa a British Airways....to jako jedna společnost vyšle letadlo a druhá společnost ho doplní kaštanama nebo jak to je ?  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 10:23 | |
|  | Jedna společnost třeba ví, že vytíženost dané linky nebude pro ně "zajímavá", nebo dokonce rentabilní, tak se dohodne s jinou/jinými společností/společnostmi na určitém bloku míst pro "konkurenční" společnost/i. Letadlo se zaplní a všichni jsou happy.
V době tzv. aliancí (např. Sky team, Star alliance apod.) to má taky význam pro reklamu, protože pokud má společnost blok míst v letadle jiné aerolinky (většinou partnera z aliance) může to do nabídky letů napsat jako svůj let..Byť fyzicky tam poletí letadlo partnera. Příklad: ČSA bude inzerovat, že se s nimi dá doletět např. do Atlanty, protože na linkách DAL (Delta Airlines) má ČSA "codeshare", čili linku do Atlanty bude ČSA inzerovat jako linku OK4xxx s malou poznámkou dole, že se jedná let aliančního partnera.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 12:03 | |
|  | A Delta si zas moze zapisat aj lety do takych "prdeli" ako su Kosice a Blava  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 103 odletů za 120min 8. 12. 2007 / 09:19 | |
|  | já měl za to, že je to 5 letadel letící ve stejný čas na stejné místo - konkurenční boj |
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|  | To by brzo zaplakali, 5 letadel za sebou do stejne destinace a v kazdem 3 kastani...  |
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