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|  | Nevím jestli už to tu neproběhlo (několik dní jsem tu nebyl).
LevelD vydalo Boeing 767-300ER pro FSX. K zakoupení na ... http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=ld767fsx
Po nedávno vydaném ATRu je to další addon, kvůli kterému bych snad začal uvažovat o koupi FSX ... |
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 |  |  | Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 12:25 | |
|  | Jojo, teď už jen sehnat dobrovolníka, kdo by zprostředkoval platbu  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 12:32 | |
|  | Taky mám stejný problém...  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 12:48 | |
|  | J8 už s ní letim SKBO-KJFK..
Tak uvidíme.. Zatim se chová jako pro FS9. Jsem zvědavej, až přiletim na top of descent, jestli opět začne padat k zemí jako šutr.. Ale to bude tak za 4,5 hodiny.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 12:49 | |
|  | Jak snižuje FPS ve srovnání s defaulty ? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 12:50 | |
|  | Vidíš... ani nevim.. ale jede plynule i na mojí nic moc kartě.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 13:30 | |
|  | Každopádně se prosím poděl o zkušenosti, nakolik jsou odstraněné chyby. Z PMDG 737 jsem byl zvyklý, že neobsahoval žádné chyby, které by měly vliv na samotný let, kdežto o levelD767 jsem četl dost problémů např. s klesáním a přistáváním v ILS. Nerad bych šlápnul vedle. PMDG 737 pro FSX určitě bude super  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 13:39 | |
|  | Podělím, neboj.
Jen bych netvrdil, že PMDG je bez chyb. LDS jich taky pár má. Zmiňované příliš prudké klesání na top of descent a neschopnost zalítnout celý ILS až po rollout jsou jen dvě největší. První se dá eliminovat včasným klesáním před top of descent pomocí V/S a následně opět přepnout do VNAV při dosažení roviny sestupu. Ohledně ILSu se mě to nikdy moc netýkalo, bo nalítnutí LLZ jsem sedával na ruku, pokud nebyla taková mlha, že i ptáci chodili pěšky. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 13:48 | |
|  | No, netvrdím, že je PMDG bez chyb. To rozhodně ne, ale nejsou tam takové, které by ovlivňovaly samotný let a mohly nějak nepříjemně překvapit. No, každopádně si budu asi muset zřídit virtuální platební kartu pro nákupy přes net, protože LevelD 767 určitě bude jedno z nej nebo úplně nej airliner pro FSX. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 17:26 | |
|  | Tak.. Jak jsem slíbil, tak přináším čerstvé zpravodajství o LDS 767 pro FSX.
Musím podotknout, že se jednalo o verzi s motory General Electric. Ostatní jsem zatím ještě nezkoušel.
Startoval jsem ze SKBO (Bogota- Eldorado) a letěl do KJFK.
Nevím, jestli to bylo tím, že Bogota je letiště položené 8500ft n. m., ale motory mi přišly o něco línější než ve verzi pro FS9. Mašina byla naložená přibližně ze 3/4, tudíž bych čekal trochu větší výkon. Resp. jsem na něj byl z FS9 zvyklý..
Let v cestovní hladině bez problémů. FMC a celkově letadlo pracuje tak, jako ve verzi FS9.
Při přiblížení k T/D jsem resetoval na MCP nastavení výšky autopilota a těšil se, na pozvolný sestup. Bohužel, toto se nekonalo. Jednalo se sice o pozvolný začátek sestupu, ale prvních asi 6 minut byl rate of desc. 4000-5000ft/min. Čili pro FSpax nic moc. Tohle by už hodnotil záporně. A přiznám se, nevidím důvod k tomu, proč FMC primárně počítá s takový klesáním.
Samotný průbeh procedury a nalítnutí ILS proběhlo standartně. S mírným vychýlením LLZ, ale po zapnutí APP mode, se mašinka srovnala pěkně do obou os a pro testování, jsem tedy nechal provést full ILS approach. Malou výtku bych ale měl. Nešlo mi zaarmovat spojlery, což je sice malá závada, ale dost nepříjmná. Po dosednutí se samy vysunuly, byť nebyly v poloze "Armed".
V čem je ale potřeba zkonstatovat zlepšení, neboť ve verzi FS9 si dost lidí sěžovalo na neschopnost mašinky zaletět kompletní ILS sestup, že se podařilo tento neduh odstranit. Na dráhu 04R v KJFK to proběhlo bez sebemnšího problému, dosednutí bylo jako do peřinky a i po dosednutí se mašina držela LLZ. Stačilo už pak jen dát reverz a odpojit následně A/P.
Celkový dojem po prvním letu je dobrý, věřím, že vývojáři LDS neusnou na vavřínech a budou pracovat na SP1, bo ještě je co zlepšovat. Každopádně si myslím, že to rozhodně nebyla šptná investice.
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 17:49 | |
|  | este dotaz na FPS ? ) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 21:00 | |
|  | Těžko posoudit, bo FS9 jsem lítal na úplně jiném kompu..
Moje grafárna momentálně nepatří mezi špičku, takže údaj o FPS by byl podle mě dost irelevantní. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 15. 7. 2007 / 01:16 | |
|  | A porovnání s defaultem z FSX ? FPS poměr... |
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|  | nelze porovnávat neporovnatelné ... |
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|  | Jak neporovnatelne? Proste jestli to byl velky FPS skok, a nebo jen zanedbatelny, nikdo tu nechce cisla presny na setiny, jen subjektivni dojem, je to litatelny a nebo neni a splnilo to ocekavani ze FSX+Addony budou jeste chvili problem. |
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|  | no tedy promiň, ale porovnávat vliv FPS mezi defaultem a TOP komerčním addonem mi příjde trochu divné. je sand jasné, že deafult bude mít mnohem menší nároky ... |
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|  | Jasně, že jo, tady jenom jde o kolik... Ohledně porovnávatelnosti, tak jediným měřitelným výstupem výkonu v FS je právě FPS při daných nastaveních "display" počasí a tak. Pokud budu vědět kolik matesovi jede u defaultu a kolik u B767, můžu přibližně zjistit co to provede u mne... |
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|  | Vyděržaj pijanjěr.. hodim to sem asap.. |
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|  | Nevim ,asi si nepochopil co sem mel na mysli. Nejde mi vubec o to, aby LD docililo toho, ze by meli stejne FPS jako u defaultu, a pokud ne, tak si to nekoupim. Co sem chtel vedet je ciste a pouze to, o cem se tu bavi od vydani FSX a to, ze je krasne, ze nekomu jede FSX se vsim v defaultu obstojne i nad velkymi mesty, ale zajima me, jestli by to bylo stale litatelne i v pripade, ze se tam da nejaky to slusny letadlo nebo scenerka. Takze sem nechtel nic porovnavat, jen slyset ano, FSX se da litat na subjektivne slusnem FPS i s 767LD bez toho, abych na to musel nadavat, nebo to chce silnejsi zelezo=jeste chvili pockat. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 16. 7. 2007 / 09:08 | |
|  | Aaaha.. ok.. no takhle.. Scenerek tam moc nemám, ale na defaultním KJFK při trochu lepším nastavení grafických detailů, bez provozu a s počasím (zataženo, kouřmo) jsem měl na LDS 11FPS. Ale znovu opakuju. Moje grafická karta bude pro svojí nevhodnost spolupráce s Vistou a s malým výkonem vyměněna co nevidět za lepší. Na středně náročných scenerkách to podle mě lítatelný je. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 14. 7. 2007 / 17:49 | |
|  | Oni si s výkonem motorů hráli a je oproti FS9 změněný. Verze s jinými motory než GE ale jsou jen změnami 3D modelu, indikace v kokpitu a výkony zůstávají stejné. |
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|  | Tak nevim.. Přišlo mi, že moc netáhnou. Resp., že táhnou podstatně míň, než ve FS9.
Ačkoliv.. nevim teď zhlavy, jaký motory to ve FS9 mělo.. Jestli GE, RR nebo PW..
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|  | Fyzika je GE. Ostatní jsou jen optické změny. |
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|  | Aaaaha.. Díky.. Nainstalim a prubnu.. |
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 |  |  | Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 17. 7. 2007 / 22:40 | |
|  | Tak jsem si tu mrchu pořídil a mohu směle doporučit, je s ní parádní polítání. Sice jsem chvilku bádal manuálem, než jsem ji nastartoval, ale pak je to lahoda.
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 17. 7. 2007 / 23:25 | |
|  | To sa akoze startuje inak ako ta pre FS9, alebo si s tou povodnou neprisiel do kontaktu? |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 18. 7. 2007 / 08:08 | |
|  | Nn, Borek FS9 verzi neměl.. Aspoň co vim.. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 18. 7. 2007 / 09:12 | |
|  | Nne, ve FS9 jsem byl zastupce PMDG komunity... |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: LevelD B767-300ER pro FSX 17. 7. 2007 / 23:55 | |
|  | fascinuje me ze nejdriv si pro to zaridis repaint a az pak otevres manual |
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|  | < joke >
Praci nebudu litat s nejakym BWA, nerkuli CW....
< / joke >
Akorat koukam, ze nmam prevracenej napis na ocase... |
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