|  |  | OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 14:49 | |
|  | Ahojky
prominte, ze tohle nesouvisi s letanim. Teda vlastne jo, pac pokud to nespravim nemuzu letat.
Takze zaonu PC, tak minutu dvevsechno normalne funguje a pak se restartuje. Po restartovani to udela znovu. Sice ne tak rychle, ale po chvili znova. Nekdo rikal, ze to muze byt spinavym chladicem, ale nevim, tohle se mi nezda.
Nevite nekdo co s tim? byl bych vam mooooooc vdecny.
Diky
Vojta |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 14:58 | |
|  | no a proč by to nemohlo být špinavým chladičem?
špinavý, zanešný chladič = špatný odvod tepla a s tím spojené přehřívání procesoru. jestli má nějakou tepelnou pojistku, tak prostě při překročení určité teploty vypne/restartuje comp, aby se neoddělal ... |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:09 | |
|  | Jenže to se neresetuje, ale vypne. To mi dela notas v perinach.  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:10 | |
|  | No ale nejde mi do hlavy, proc se restartuje, proc se jednoduse nevypne...
A ze by byl prehraty po jedne minute provozu? |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:16 | |
|  | proc by nebyl? procesor se zahreje velmi rychle a pokud mas rozbity chladic ci ventilator tak ..... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:58 | |
|  | ale houby, to by musel mat dole cely chladic, po minute nie je mozne aby mu kvoli proceru restartovalo pocitac to bude v niecom inom, a keby to bolo uz kvvoli tomu proceru vyhodi mu bud nejaku chybu (ozval by sa), alebo by spomalilo uplne pocitac, alebo by sa mu upiekol |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 18:26 | |
|  | kdyz myslis.. hadat se s tebou nebudu  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 19:22 | |
|  | Proc by to nebylo mozny? Treba kdyz prilis pretaktujes procesor, ze ti to uz tvoje chlazeni nestiha, tak ti taky pocitac slitne celkem dost rychle. Co se tyce toho "upeceni" nebo chybovy hlasky... Co vim, tak vetsina soucasnyho HW se pri prehrivani proste bleskove vypne /restartuje aby samo predchazelo jeho poskozeni. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 19:54 | |
|  | Zrovna nedavno sa mi podarila taka vec - kedze mam obe ruky lave, tak sa mi bohvie ako podarilo zle nasadit chladic na CPU. System normalne nastartoval, ziadna hlaska/chyba, len to bolo akesi pomale....mrknem monitorovacej utilitky a co nevidim - core teplota 89C a procak bezal na cca 1,6Ghz (def. o/c na 3,2).
Tudiz nenastal ziadny CTD ani restart, ale CPU sa automaticky spomalil (Intel Speedstep mam vypnuty) a zacal si dodavat prazdne instrukcie, ci jak sa tomu nadava. Ale samozrejne iny CPU/PC sa moze chovat inak. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 11. 7. 2007 / 08:36 | |
|  | Prepac ale musim ti oponovat CPU bez chladica zhori za niekolko milisekund ... Intel asi po 30 sec ak vydrzi minimalne vypne stroj |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:17 | |
|  | Kam az se dostanes - myslim ve Windows? nabehne Ti to normalne, nebo se nedostanes ani na plochu?
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:22 | |
|  | Nabehne to naprosto normalne, pustim treba operu nebo NHL a buch, konec filma... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:26 | |
|  | A kdyz to nespustis, proste to nechas jak to samo nabehne, trva to poprve dyl nez to zuchne? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:28 | |
|  | No o chvilku dyl, ale o moc to neni... Treba ted v nedeli to nespadlo dlouho.
Vir si myslim, ze to nedela... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:36 | |
|  | Napada me, moc to asi nepomuze, ale zkus se mrknout do procesu (Ctrl+Alt+Del) a serad si je podle zatizeni CPU - myslim, ze pokud je na vinne nejaky "dobrak" mohl by si ho videt (pri trose stesti). |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:38 | |
|  | Pokud to totiz spadne rychleji kdyz neco hned spustis, tak by to mohlo byt tim teplem, protoze samozrejme musi komp pracovat a rychleji se zahreje. Zkus jen tak odkrytovat bok, a treba tam pustit i nejakej ten vzduch navic, a sleduj co to udela.
Dalsi moznost by pak mohl byt zdroj, at uz vadnej, a nebo se prehrivajici. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:43 | |
|  | v souvislosti s teplotou bych úplně ze všeho nejdřív vyndal chladič a kouknul se na něj jestli není zanešenej prachem. já jsem ho vyndal nedávno a nestačil jsem se divit. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:51 | |
|  | Ovšem nezabudnite si kúpiť teplovodivú pastu aby ste ho tam vedeli úspešne vrátiť... ja som si tak skoro uvaril P4ku... teploty ešte vyššie ako pred vybratím. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:06 | |
|  | No pokud projedeš pc nějakými antiviry a antispywary, tak nic nezkazíš. Jednou mi něco podobného taky dělal vírus. Anebo pokud ti to dělá poslední dobou, zkus Obnovení systému. Naposledy mi to pomohlo od jednoho zákeřnýho červa  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:23 | |
|  | Nápad jistě dobrý. Výsledky nebyly dobré.
Jak to má proskenovat, když se mu to restartuje? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 17:02 | |
|  | ale vedel by som celkom jednoducho pomoct, sice pride o data, no moze si ich u niekoho zalohovat, a formatovat disk, preinstalovat WIN a uvidi sa ci to je hardwareom, hmm? kto ma filipa |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 17:35 | |
|  | Ja bych strcil do mechaniky nejake LiveCD s Linuxem, treba Knoppix. Pak bych videl totez a nemusel bych nic preinstalovavat. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 21:38 | |
|  | Prostě nechtěla to žrát  Pravda, pravda, to mi nějak ujelo, za minutu se toho moc proskenovat nedá Tak bych zkusil alespoň to obnovení systému. |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:26 | |
|  | volakedy toto robil nejaky vir .. uz si nespominam na meno .. , ale ak mas aktualizovane windowsy, diera bola zaplatana..
skus boot z CD nie z Hdd a ak to nebude robit tak virus .. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 15:27 | |
|  | Ale ten ti jeste mile napsal cas ktery ti zbyva do restartu, resp. to byla sluzba kterou on vypl a ona psala zbyvajici cas. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 17:04 | |
|  | SASSER, to je ze ti do minuty vypne komp.... ale jemu nevypise absolutne nic |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:09 | |
|  | A neámáš tam čistě teoreticky program na měření komunikace s okolím connection metter ? Ten mi kdysi vypínal počítač poté co jsem překročil nastavený limit(měl jsem 8 GB)... Sv*ně jedna, a jak letěl...  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 16:39 | |
|  | A ještě jedna věc, zkoušel jsi zapnout ten počítač v nouzovém režimu ? POkud by potom jel bylo by to chybou nějakého programu, možná vira. Pokud je to z hardwaru, tak ti zase spadne...  |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 10. 7. 2007 / 17:29 | |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 11. 7. 2007 / 07:33 | |
|  | Tak jsem se s tim vcera hral, vycistil jsem vsechny chladice a porad stejny vysledek.
Jen me napadlo. Nemuze to byt treba poklesem napeti v siti? Pac otec ma ve sklepe stolarskou dilnu. Vecer uz mi to tak moc nedelalo... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 11. 7. 2007 / 07:52 | |
|  | Můžeš zkusit vlézt po restartu do biosu a omrknout napájecí napětí a teploty, teda jestli to tvůj MB má. Bývá to v "PC health status" nebo tak podobně. Mrkni do manuálu k desce. Indikace napětí by měla být stabilní a nehýbat se. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 11. 7. 2007 / 08:48 | |
|  | No to z tou pilou je dost pravdepodobne. Neviem ti takto na dialku zistit pricinu ale mozem ti napisat par dovodov kedy sa takto zavada prejavovala u mojich zakaznikov v PC servise ...
1. Ako uz spominane prehrievanie - chladice,CPU, zdroj a vsetko co ti chlapci poradili
2. Nastavenie biosu - tiez uz spominane (odporucam dat default)
3. Pokles napatia sieti - to si spominal ty
4. VGA - zla spolupraca na zbernici - pretazenie - zasah istrukcii do pamati a pad
5. Vadna RAM - toto bol posledny pripad nedavno
6. A najhorsi pripad odchadza MaBo - niekedy uz "pretekaju" kondenzatory
Cize idealne by bolo pozriet do logu udalosti a tam mas napisane sice pre teba nezrozumitelne , co sa stalo
dostanes sa tam takto - Tento pocitac (pravy klik) - Spravovat - Zazna udalosti ---- ak sa ti podari urobit z tohoto zaznamu nejaky screen skus mi ho poslat
Avsak uz nie cez toto forum ale sukromnou spravou alebo emailom
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 11. 7. 2007 / 09:05 | |
|  | Ok, vecer se na to mrknu, zatim dik. |
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 |  |  | Re: OT Resetovani pocitace 12. 7. 2007 / 00:07 | |
|  | Tak abych taky pridal do seznamu moznych pricin:
Kdysi sem se setkal s naprosto stejnym problemem. Pricina: prasklej motherboard. Jak se to zahralo, prasklina se rozklizila a zkrat v obvodech zpusobil restart.
Preju Ti, aby to bylo neco jinyho. |
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