|  |  | VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 16:42 | |
|  | Zdravim vsechny a prosim o radu.Prohledaval jsem forum,omlouvam se jestli se to uz nekdy resilo,ale mozna jsem malo usilovne hledal..Chtel bych z offline prejit konecne na online a nevim,zda zkusit VATSIM ci IVAO.Vim,ze IVAO pouziva IVAP, SB nebo FSInn zase VATSIM,ALE:co je pro zacatecnika na siti jednodussi,stabilnejsi,co mene pada a "zamrza" a taky kde se vic lita a da naucit.Doufam,ze nevyvolam nejakou valku,asi jako kdyz diskutuji "levlcejndzisti" a "vertiklspeedisti" ).Virtualni ajrolinky zatim neresim,jde mi jen o volbu site.Diky dopredu. |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 16:54 | |
|  | Flejmová otázka jak prase Ale asi takhle VATSIMák to řekne VATSIM, IVAOák IVAO... |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 20:03 | |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 16:57 | |
|  | ja bych taky zalital..ale kdyz vidim to prokousani tou registraci a ty hejna nastavovani tak si rikam,ze to asi ani nema cenu..pac ja stejne jen tak poletuju,tak abych se vam nekde neplet.. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 17:01 | |
|  | Zadny hejna nastavovani atd nejsou... stahnes ivap, nainstalujes MTL a Teamspeak a jedes. Registrace je zalezitost minuty.
Co se tyce samotnyho zprovozneni a rozchozeni je myslim pristupnejsi IVAO, stejne tak provoz a pokryti po Evrope je tam vetsi. Vic neporovnam, s VATSIMem moc zkusenosti nemam. Jenom sem nakouknul.
Jinak jak tu nekdo psal, VATSIMak doporuci VATSIM, clovek z IVAO zase IVAO... ale vzhledem k tomu, ze tady na peraku je imho vic lidi z IVAO, tak asi vyhraje tahle sit 
P.S: jestli si nenasel neco o VATSIM vs. IVAO, tak si hledal opravdu HODNE spatne ... toho je tu vic nez dost |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 17:22 | |
|  | me staci kdyz se podivam na velice "prehlednej" web ceskej divize,a nak me prechazi chut.. aleee,i tak..nema na to stavenej comp..jsem rad ze mi beha FS2oo4 s addon erama, ale jak tam dam scenerku tak uz to zacina tuhnout.. jeste si musim par mesicu pockat.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 20:11 | |
|  | Po pravdě já jsem se tam ani moc nekoukal a to IVAO lítám  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 21:31 | |
|  | ja do toho neci rejpat,ale jako s temahle strankama se to neda ani srovnat.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:30 | |
|  | no vidíš, a máš argument, který jsi hledal... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:54 | |
|  | Pokud mas chut, muzes nam udelat novej...Budeme jenom radi za nej, ale oni lidi dokazou dost casto jenom kecat a pomlouvat a aby radeji prilozili ruku k dilu... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 17:23 | |
|  | tak jsem to nemyslel..proste ta orientace je tam ale pomerne nic moc..jako kdyz si nekdo zvykne,tak asi jo..ale kdyz ja tam parkrat nahlidnul tak jsem nevedel o co go..a kdybych to umel,klidne ruku k dilu prilozim.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:55 | |
|  | Ja nevim, mne teda prijde ten web opravdu dobrej... |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 17:03 | |
|  | jestli se nepletu, tak tady je vetsina lidi na IVAO. doporucit to ovsem nemuzu, protoze by se urcite nasel nejakej rejpavej VATSIMptak a byla by hadka jako prase |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 10:07 | |
|  | No to si piš  |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 17:05 | |
|  | vyzkoušej oboje nějákou dobu a nejlépe uděláš když sám usoudíš,co ti vyhovuje víc.. |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 18:08 | |
|  | Vzhledem k tomu, že máš v infu, že lítáš s malými letadly, tak bych ti doporučil Ivao. Svého času jsem koketoval s Vatsimem, ale jak se mi X krát stalo, že jsem neviděl ani jedno malé éro nad republikou, tak jsem přešel k Ivau. Na Ivau nemáš problém potkat člověka, který lítá s malýma érama. Čas od času se nás na nějakém letišti sejde celkem dost a to si provoz potom pěkně užiješ. Navíc jsou letiště celkem slušně obsazená řídícím, který ti ve většině případů poradí. Co se týče stability, tak se mi ještě nestalo že by mi Ivap spadl nebo zamrzl a to lítám už kolem dvou let.
Pravda je, že dění na Vatsmu už nějakou dobu nesleduji, tak nevím jak to tam dneska vypadá. |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 20:56 | |
|  | Neriesil by som, ci Vatsim, alebo IVAO. Jedno nevylucuje druhe. Simulator je rovnaky, pravidla a procedury tiez, dokonca aj "letove dni" dni su v Cechach pekne podelene: v utorky byva plno na IVAO a vo stvrtky zase na VATSIMe. Ak sa clovek zorientuje v komunikacnych softveroch, tak nevidim problem... Pridal by som aj svoje postrehy (vyhody a nevyhody oboch "poskytovatelov"), ale nechcem zakladat "poziar" =). Nech sa vsak rozhodnes akokolvek, drzim ti palce a zelam ti vela stastne odlietanych hodin. |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 21:09 | |
|  | Na VATSIMU nelítám takže nebudu úplně "kompetentní" k radě, ale co jsem slyšel tak je VATSIM jakoby "profesionalnější", takže bych doporučil začínat na IVAO..... můj názor, taky doufám že nedostanu virtuálně přes hubu  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 21:35 | |
|  | Chjo, zcela mimo diskusi o tom jak taková, či maková je která síť, fakt by mne zajímala ta kritéria, podle kterých se taková profesionálnost hodnotí... )) |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 21:54 | |
|  | jako ridiciho me predchozi prispevek vydesil (zacinat na ivao). i tak behem observovani jsem dnes zahledl par novacku co nekomunikovali, nemeli plan a jejich poletovani pripominalo let surface-to-air rakety vzhledem k ostatnimu provozu |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:14 | |
|  | No ale kdo rika ze to musi bejt tenhle typ novacka? Ja treba taky napoprvy nekomunikoval, pac jsem nevedel ze oblast ridi aj VFR lety kdyz neni vezka.. No a vyresila to message Contact me on ...
Staci kdyz si projde frazeologii pro VFR na http://www.virtualak.cz
Samozrejme zacit jako VFR, jako v realu. Dostavaj me lidi co se prohanej v boeingu nebo ve stihacce a pritom to sotva umej ovladat, natoz dodrzovat aspon zakladni postupy. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:27 | |
|  | no ono prave dost casto, ne li pravidelne se stava ze clovek se pripoji bez RTFM a pak i kdyby mel sebevetsi snahu odpovedet na force act, tak proste neni schopen protoze na jeho frekvenci ridici na 99,9 procent neni a chat bez manualu pouzivat neumi. ve vysledku se to taha pres SUPy, kickuje se, tecou nervy, litaji nadavky a o prijemnem litani nebo rizeni nemuze byt rec |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 14. 5. 2007 / 22:54 | |
|  | Notabene kdyz ridis, litaj ti letadla na 06-24 a nejakej jouda (volacku radsi nebudu psat) si to naladuje primo na rwy31 a odpali to do eteru.... |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 10:09 | |
|  | Čekal jsem kdy se zjevíš 
Matně mi to vybavuje bouřlivou diskuzi u "nás", kterou teď čtu s úsměvem, ale ve kterých se šlo dost na nože  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 11:33 | |
|  | Mňojo - já tohle hašteření dost nesnáším, nicméně taky už jsem se nechal strhnout několikrát.
Nutno podotknout, že nejradši bych to viděl tak, že by se spojilo to nejlepší z obou sítí aspoň v české komunitě, nicméně na to asi není dobrá vůle dostatečného množství lidí na obou stranách  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 12:02 | |
|  | jj za toto som aj ja. Naco sa mrvit do roznych sieti. Potom byva malo pilotov aj riadacich ked sa to tak trusi. Ja by prijal co bol raz ten prvoaprilovy zartik ale realne a skutocne. Len problem, ze ludia sa nikdy nedohodnu. A mam obavi, ze sa to bude viac mrvit lebo ludia sa väcsinou pohadaju a robia si potom svoje a nove veci |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 12:25 | |
|  | No ono je to taky částečně tím, že všichni by sice chtěli "to nejlepší z obou", ale každý vnímá něco jiného jako "to nejlepší"  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 12:50 | |
|  | tudiz rozdeleni aktivit je (do urcite miry) vzdy vhodne. |
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 |  |  | Re: VATSIM nebo IVAO 15. 5. 2007 / 09:37 | |
|  | Dobre ranko,zdravim vsechny a dekuju za podnety,nazory, rady a odkazy.Krome toho vyhlasuji klid zbrani mezi VATSIM a IVAO.Nekde se casem vynorim,az rodinne moznosti dovoli,synacek je na F/O jeste maly ).Pro jistotu neprozradim, na jake siti to bude a potrenuji,abych nepridelal ridicim zbytecne vrasky.A vyzyvam vsechny 'kamikadze',aby se taky nejdriv neco naucili,nez se pripoji do site.Letu zdar. |
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