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|  | Zdravim,
chtel bych se zeptat, zda nevite, jestli se nejak lisi prohlidka na 1.tridu zdravotni zpusobilosti na CPL a na ATPL. Kdyz jsem tam byl (cca listopad), tak kdyz jsem rekl, ze jdu kvuli CVUT, slecna mi tam automaticky napsala CPL, ale ted jsem se o tom bavil s kamaradem a ten rikal, ze je to neco "trochu" jineho... Nevite nekdo nahodou neco presnejsiho, nebo kde by se to dalo najit? Diky |
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|  | Nemelo by, otevri si ho a najdes tam tabulky kde je to napsany... |
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|  | Vstupní prohlídka je úplně totéž, obojí je stejný Class 1 medical dle JAR FCL 3. Ono to na ÚCL taky berou jako CPL když už pro nic jiného, tak pro to, že nic takového jako studium ATPL neexistuje. Po skončení školy budeš "jen" CPL se složenými ATPL teoretickými zkouškami a ATPL licenci získáš až náletem 1500 hodin (a z těch minimální počty pro určité typy letů). Takže pro ně prostě studuješ CPL a taky to tak je  |
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|  | Ja doporucim si pak na papiry, ktery putuji psychologvi napsat PPL(pokud teda nedelas hned CPL), ja si 2. nedelal a sel jsem hned 1., kdyz jsem zacinal s PPL a psycholog me pak "sprdnul", ze tam mam napsano CPL a pet minut jsem mu vysvetloval, ze zacinam PPL. |
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|  | to by som neriskoval..neviem, ako v pragli, ale v KE psycholog priamo pise do protokolu schopny 1. tr L1 resp. JAR-FCL3 cize ak by si tam napisal PPL, tak ti psycholog napise 2. tr. L1 resp. JAR-FCL3 |
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|  | psycholog je blazen, ale pssst me zas presvedcoval, ze neni nic, jako integrovany vycvik btw. doufam, ze si aspon cte pravidelne perak ....   |
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|  | Zdravim,můžu se vás chlapy na něco optat na tom medic 1 jak jsou dělaný testy na bervocit ?? mě obvodní doktor řekl že mam poruchu parvocitu na odstín hnědý a šedý.No tak jsem volal očařovy jestli můžu přijít na prohlídku přímo k němu a on mi řekl že je taky možný že to je způsobený špatnym osvětlením,nevyspáním atd. no prostě že mam k němu přijít a on mě proklepne.Tak mě jenom zajímá jak je to na ÚLZ na jedničku medica protože asi tak za rok bych si ho také rád udělal. |
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|  | Ukaze ti takovy blocek, ve kterem jsou na kazde strance barevne krouzky (spis flicky) ruznych odstinu a ty mas rict, co v tom vidis. Lidi s narusenym barvocitem v tom vetsinou vidi neco jineho. Kdyz pohledas ve foru, tak neco urcite najdes... Mimojine si pamatuji, jak se tady resilo, co ze to tam vlastne ti "s-ne-zcela-dokonalym-barvocitem" vidi a byla to docela sranda diskuze Jo a je tam jeden chytak - porad jdou cisla a pismena a pak byl obrazek, jsem do toho koukal jak blazen a zadny pismeno, cislo ... Tak mu rikam, ze tam nic nevidim, jenom nejakej trojuhelnik a ctverec a on "noooo, hura, to je to co chci slyset" 
A jeste diky vsem za odpovedi  |
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|  | jj takový flíčky jsem u toho obvoďáka dostal ... no a asi na dvou jsem nic neviděl,tak nevim jestli se může stát i to že tam nic neni nebo je na každá kartě něco.No uvidim skočim si přímo za očařem a on mi řekne.A co ještě je na tom ÚLZ záludnýho ?? asi všechno co.Nemohl by tady někdo napsat takový menší slohový cvičení a sepsat komplet od začátku až do konce co se děje na tom ÚCL při vyšetřování na získání medic 1 ?? |
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|  | Prostě tam zajdi a buď to dostaneš nebo ne Medical není zkouška znalostí, to je prostě vyšetření. Nic nenahraješ ani nenasimuluješ, ani nenacvičíš. Prostě tam běž a uvidíš Pokud chceš získat Medical class 1, tak co je a co není v pořádku ti neřekne nikdo jiný než AME, ani normální doktor. |
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|  | Moje slohovka to není ale takhle nějak.
1. Pee (into a pee cup)
2. Eye test (stand at a distance and read the chart of words)
3. Measure my height
4. Measure my weight
5. Blood test
6. Hearing test (basically sitting in a sound proof box not that much space just a single seat and you would have to wear head phones. The person outside would press a couple of buttons and if I can hear it I would press the joystick button on my right hand given to me. Everytime I hear it and press the button, it would get softer until I cant hear it anymore. The noise has different pitches and different volumes.)
7. Heart test (asked to take of your shirt and couple of plugs placed on your two nipples,wrist, stomach, ankles, and neck)
8. X-ray picture of your chest would be taken.
All those above was done by the assistants.
9. The head doctor of the clinic would than test your heart beat again.
10. Look into your ear
11. check your eyes with a flash light
12. tongue and tonsils
13. Look at the charts produced by steps 1 - 8
Congratulations you receive your Class I and Class II Medical Certs.
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|  | A, ano, může ti dát obrázek, kde není žádný číslo, jenom čáry  |
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|  | no, jestli jsem se neprekouk, tak tam chybi vec, ktera pry obcas dela problemy a to jsou psychotesty .... je to maximalne v pohode - ale je treba odpovidat s rozmyslem a po pravde... jsou tam tam treba formulare, kde se doplnuji vety "Vcera jsem sel spat v ..... hodin. Vstaval jsem v ..... hodin. Spal jsem tedy ... hodin. Citim se vyspaly/nevyspaly". No, pohoda. Ale nezkousejte kecat, ta sama otazka se muze opakovat treba za pul hodky u posledniho testu a vsadim se, ze si nevzpomenete, co jste napsali do toho prvniho No a pak je tam ten silne obavany test na kratkodobou pamet a schopnost rychle kombinace. je to A2 papir na kterem jsou ve sloupcich cisla a skupiny pismen. cca takhle
1 AB 5 AC 2 OK
2 AB 6 AC 3 OK
3 AB 7 AC 4 OK
4 AB 1 AC 5 OK
cisla jsou tusim do 70 nebo 75 a tech skupin je tam asi 10. no a pak slysite z radia treba "1 3 AB OK", to si poskladate na 1AB a 3OK a skrtnete. Pokud muzu radit, me se osvedcilo si na diktovana cisla polozit prsty pri diktovani a rovnou zacit hledat skupinu pismen... Clovek to sice pak stejne dela z pameti, ale je to takovy min pod tlakem 
A curani a krev je rano uplne prvni 
A druhy den na vysetreni mozku ... To je taky psycho lezite, na hlave cepku s elektrodama, a mate zavrene oci. Pride sestra, rekne "otevrete oci, ..., zavrete oci", 5min nic, zase "otevrete oci, ..., zavrete oci", 5min nic, "otevrete "- automaticky jsem otevrel oci - "OTEVRETE PUSU, ZAVRENE OCI ..."  
A mozna jeste neco myslim, ze tady i na aeroweb.cz je toho o ULZ docela dost   |
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|  | TEST 1 is to get the red ball in the center. You might see lines in the latest version. The ball will move opposite to the joystick movement. The task is to mantain the ball in the middle. Or maybe some lines.
Don’t try to think ‘ok if I move my hand left.. the ball will move right. Owh ball just moved right. Hand! Move left. Left I said!.’
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|  | Nebo tohle 
TEST 2 is kinda tricky. It’s a man with shapes on his hand. There will be question will have 3 men and will sound something like How many is holding a square on the right hand? And you have to a number. Or something like that.
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|  | To maj na vstupních testech některý ajrolinky  |
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|  | Ten prvý je ľahký, ale nesmieš sa zamerať na to, že hýbeš guličkou, ale na to, že hýbeš krížom.
Druhý je ľahký ak máš priestorovú orientáciu (a tú ja mám, ako som sa presvedčil na psychotestov keď som mal skončenú časť na toto už po štyroch minútach z 20 Spolužiaci na tom maturovali aj 15) |
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|  | Ja v tom furt nic nevidim buď to blbě překládám a nebo jsem úplně blbej  |
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|  | Ten test s těma sloupcema písmen a čísel jsem dělal taky..
Můžu se zeptat, jakej si měl výsledek..?
Já měl tři chyby ze sta....
Pamatuju si, že tam se mnou byl nějakej adept na ATPL a ten měl 33 dobře.. ze sta..   |
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|  | ja jsem tam mel 6 nebo 7 chyb... no, nic moc ale na slozeni uspesne zkousky jich musi byt myslim 70 nebo 80, takze porad s rezervou  |
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|  | ani se mi nechce verit, ze takova troska jako ja by mohla udelat tyhle testy ba ne, asi bych neprosel ty usni, jako malej jsem byl skoro hluchej a ted jsem moc linej nez bych dobre poslouchal  |
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|  | Nic zaludnyho tam neni (az na ty prachy).
- rano se jde nejdriv na krev,moc
- EKG
- ocni
- ORL
- EEG
- psycho
- interni
- audio
- neurologie
- chirurgie (mam takovej pocit ze se to tak fakt jmenuje, ale jen te zvazej, zmerej)
Snad jsem na nic nezapomnel, az na detaily je to skoro podobny jak psal Filip.
U nekoho co jsem koukal si jeste doktori primyslej rentgeny, spirometrii,...
Vstupni na Medical I se neda obehnout za den, takze pokud nejsi z Praglu tak si zamluv nekde spani.
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|  | jo a na chirurgii jsem hodinu cekal bo nebyl dochtor, resp byl ale zrovna nekoho rezal na operacnim sale |
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|  | -zubniiii  |
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|  | A sakra  |
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|  | Tebe poslali na zubni? Tyjo to ses asi jedinej koho znam kdo tam byl.  |
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|  | Tak to bylo dobry 
btw teba na tie testy poslala armada? |
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|  | jestli mi chces rikat armada tak jo |
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|  | To jste tam zasli z dlouhy chvile? Ja tam vzdycky vidal jen list duchodce (a ty myslim 1st class nechteli). |
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|  | no, ja jsem od te slecny "sekretarky" dostal papirek, co mam stihnout za den a co druhy den. a pak mi rekla, ze hned po krvi mam jit na zubni, ze to v poho stiham pred psyhotestama .... a kdyz to rikala ona ....  |
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|  | da se to zvladnout za 1, ale musis mit prioritu  |
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|  | treba velkej nuz, ze jo? co muzou zkoumat na zubnim??? |
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|  | na zubnim se jenom podiva, jestli nejaky zuby mas a za jeden den se to stihnout da, ale rikala mii, ze po psychotestech muze byt clovek nejak rozbity a to se muze projevit u toho vysetreni mozku. A to vysetreni se da opakovat az za pul roku myslim. Nebo mi to tak aspon rekli  |
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|  | a co je prosim tě Red-Green Color Blind ? já v tom našel teda jenom to Normal Color Vision a to poslední kolečko dol je co ?? |
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|  | to je taky test, jestli v tom vidis tecky tak tam ani nechod  |
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|  | No musim na to koukat dýl abych to tam viděl ale s tim spodnim mam už potíže. |
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|  | Nejsou ještě někde na internetu takové to testy na barvocit ?? |
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|  | Tak jsem se na to koukl a vše ok, až ten poslední jsem se díval a řikal si, že je to blbost, ale podle výsleku jsem to viděl dobře....asi občas chce nad tim moc nepřemýšlet a brát to, jak to vidím. |
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|  | Ahoj ,tak co se týka barvocitu tak jsem díky stejnému problému oběhal pár lékařů.A zjištění..?2.třída není problém ,ale 1.třída s poruchou barvocitu nejde. |
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|  | Jo tak tady tohle ještě poznám co tam je ) |
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|  | to se mas cim chlubit. precti si to poradne: but colorblind people will easily see a number 5
kdyz se snazim tak to tam najdu a pritom jsem prosel s hvezdickou |
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|  | A nemaj to napsany blbe? Ja tam taky vidim 5 a nevim o tom ze bych byl barvoslepej. To samy pak ty cisla dal, no problem, tak nevim. |
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|  | Ja tam tu 5ku vidim, ale omnoho vyraznejsie vidim to, co treba (uz sa presne nepametam) |
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|  | no já jsem teť taky nějak zmatenej já tam tu pětku taky vyluštil a ty ostatní jsem viděl hned ... tak nevim co mi to ten obvoďák napsal,už se docela těšim k tomu očaři až mě vyšetří komplet,aspoň budu vědět na čem jsem  |
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|  | Colorblind člověk ji tam neluští ale vidí hnedka. Kdo ji luští,je ok. |
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|  | Já právě všechny vidím správně, ale tady jsem tu pětku viděl hned. |
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|  | já taky, já taky  |
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|  | To není o barvosleposti, ale o poruše barvocitu.. Vím o čem mluvim, sám ho mám.. |
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|  | Jo sorry, ja tam videl colorblind tak jsem nad tim nepremejslel a napsal "barvoslepost". |
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|  | No na první pohled jsem jí neviděl, ale když jsem si přečetl, že tam může být, už jsem jí viděl, tak nevím  |
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|  | To by mne zajimalo, jakou bych mel diagnozu, kdybych odpovedel 20  |
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|  | tipuju ze by te odeslal k psychousovi aby sis z nich nedelal srandu |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.tr. zdrav. zp. - ATPL & CPL 4. 3. 2007 / 19:42 | |
|  | Maj to tam dobře. V tom je ten fór, že ta pětka (která tam ve skutečnosti je) je složená z teček různých odstínů různých barev (ne z jedné podobné barvy, jako ostatní čísla na zbylých tabulkách) a tak člověk s dobrým barvocitem tápe a přemýšlí, jestli k sobě patří oranžové kapky, nebo spíš šedé obloučky a až pocvhíli si dá dohromady, že z různých barev tam cosi je - a asi je to pětka (ale neměl by být čas si to takhle promýšlet, ukážou a vidíš, nebo nevidíš - a s normálmím barvocitem - když nemáš 120% fotografickou pameť, už nemáš co rozmýšlet.
Odstíny jsou ale chytře voleny tak, aby pro člověka s poruchou barvocitu tento problém nenastal - a on vídí víceméně kontrastně proti okolí tu pětku (chybí mu informace, že číslo je oproti předešlým složeno ze zcela různých barev). A vesele řekne "jo tuhle pětku vidím dobře!".
Je hezký se o tom bavit, ale trochu se mi zdá, jakoby někteří naznačovali, že chtějí tím nebo oním sítem (na způsobilost CPL/ATPL!) projít díky tomu, že budou vědět předem, co tam maj vidět. Určitě se mejlím, protože jinak bych byl mooooc smutnej, kdyby se někdo chystal obkličkovat medical check... To se totiž může docela vymstít... Tomu, komu by pak třeba spadli na hlavu. |
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|  | no .. v tom pripade to ale neni jen o tom, jak vidis, ale i o uvazovani .. protoze clovek s normalnim barvocitem tam tu petku uvidi .. ale ted jeste jde o to, jestli ho napadne, ze ma brat v uvahu pouze stejny odstin, nebo jiny odstin...
cili v tomto testu muze "5" rict jak clovek , ktery ma s barvami problem, tak clovek, ktery vidi barvy "uzasne" ale pritom si neuvedomi ze ma brat v uvahu jenom podobne odstiny.. nebo to je ucel a je to i test uvazovani?  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1.tr. zdrav. zp. - ATPL & CPL 4. 3. 2007 / 19:53 | |
|  | Asi jsi ten test už někdy někde dělal - a nečetl před tím návody na internetu. Vrazí ti primitivní číslo z prïmitivní barvy a ty řekneš "Šest"" (nebo kolik tam je) a jede hned další. Ty další jsou složitější a ty přemýšlíš "vidím to skvěle, kde je chyták?" - a pak už to tak jasné není a přijde ten konec a ty vidíš především tu oranžovou a různé zelené a ocásky šedé - a kroutíš hlavou a říkáš - je to ta pětka - nebo ne? a je konec. Při dobře provedeném testu (bohužel ne, když ty tabulky před tím umí někdo nazpaměť) se to pozná. Jak vidíš - používá to celý svět, Žapíky nevyjímaje!  |
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|  | trochu ti to skresluje aj pocitac..v reale by si urcite videl to, co mas..hlavne, ked oko zaostris do nekonecna.. |
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|  | A ještě dotaz kolik teť stojí vyšetření na ÚLZ na medic 1 ?? |
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|  | Ja jsem tam nechal necelych 6 litru, konkretne myslim 5800,- |
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|  | faaaakt? ja akorat 300 za jizdenku do prahy a zpatky + nejake jidlo a tak... |
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|  | A japato ? ty jsi neplatil za vyšetření ?  |
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|  | nejspis mu ho platila armada |
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|  | A pokud máš 2tr (ktera stoji 2000) tak ti daj slevu a zaplatíš jen 6300,-  |
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|  | Počkej dvojka stojí 2000 ?? Já si dělal dvojku před dvoma rokama,teť z jara musim jít na prodloužení.Ale když jsem si jí dělal tak mě stála 400,- |
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|  | Nezatáhl to za tebe někdo jiný? Nebo nedělal sis takovou tu "menší" UL/plachtařskou? Přesně před dvěma lety jsem si chtěl dělat dvojku a tehdy stála 2000. Pak za mě ŘLP zatáhlo trojku a na základě jejich výsledků mi vystavili i dvojku a i jen to zkouknutí papíru bez vyšetření a následné vydání průkazu stálo 200kč, takže mi přijde nepravděpodobné, že by komplet vyšetření bylo za 400  |
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|  | A jinak teď koukam do ceníku a aktuální cena je 2450 kč  |
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|  | No já si to dělal na ULL ... Ale to je snad jedno na co to je jestli ULL,plachtařina ne ?? Teť od jara jdu dělat plachtařinu a doufám že to neni jinej medical card než na ULL.Prosim tě dej odkaz na ten ceník díky. |
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|  | Je jedno jestli ULL nebo plachtarina ale neni jedno jestli PPL.
Me 2nd class stala pred dvema roky 2222,- |
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|  | Rychlá dekomprese do FL240, to může být docela šílené.. Už toto vyšetření někdo absolvoval? |
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|  | absolvovat je jedna vec a rozdychat to jina. to mas stejne jako se stakanem 200  |
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|  | Dobrá připomínka - měním formulaci otázky. Už to někdo absolvoval a PŘEŽIL ve zdraví? |
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|  | A na PPL je jiný Me 2nd ?? no já bych si stejně chtěl už na PPL udělat jedničku,abych věděl zda má cenu jít dál CPL... ATPL nebo jestli mě nepustěj doktoři  |
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|  | Jsou dve 2. tridy, PPL a pak GLD (ULL). Dost se od sebe lisej. |
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