|  |  | Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 20:36 | pasi |
|  | Ahoj vsichni,
nekde na netu jsem cetl, ze nyni uz zavrene letiste v Kai Tak bylo oriskem a nocni murou pro piloty. Proc tomu tak bylo? V FS jsem priblizeni na nej nezkousel, ale cetl jsem tu, ze ma vyosene ILS. To ma jenom v simulatoru, nebo tomu bylo tak i ve skutecnosti? Nebo z jakeho duvodu to byla pro piloty nocni mura? Na netu jsem toho moc nenasel...
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 |  |  | Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 20:54 | Láďa |
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 |  |  | Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 20:59 | |
|  | Bohužel ve FS2002 na rozdíl od předchozí verze už kompletní letiště Kai Tak není (MS by se nemusel v některých vyjímkách tak držet reálu!). Myslím, že noční můra to nebyla, pokud vím, tak piloti ho měli velmi rádi asi právě proto, že přistání bylo dost komplikované, muselo se provádět ručně a nebyl to takový stereotyp. Totiž z jedné strany nedaleko před prahem dráhy jsou vysoké kopce, proto se musela těsně před přistáním dělat ostrá zatáčka, určitě více než 50° a to celé ještě v minimální výšce nad hustě obydlenou částí města. Ale naštestí tam nic nespadlo, ale kapacitně už asi nestačilo. Tak udělali letiště nové na volnější ploše. Doporučuji www.airliners.net tam najdeš stotisíce fotek z celého světa, ale velká část je právě z Kai Tak. Stačí jen do filtru "Country/airport" nastavit "China - Hong Kong - Kai Tak" a uvidíš, jestli na netu opravdu nic moc není  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 21:48 | pasi |
|  | Tak to je vazne parada...ty fotky jsou naprosto uzasny. Diky za link. Musel to byt vazne orisek a kolikrat to nedopadlo zrovna nejlip Skoda ze ve FS2002 uz neni...
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 22:24 | |
|  | Poslal jsem ti jednoduchou scenerii Kai Tak do mailu (700kb), tak si ji zkus nainstalovat. Není nic extra, ale lepší než defaultní prázdná plocha ve FS2002. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 22:47 | |
|  | je někde na inetu scenerie tohoto letiste?? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 12. 5. 2003 / 23:06 | |
|  | Určitě je, myslím, že jsem to našel na AVSIM nebo podobném serveru, soubor se jmnenuje: VHHK_1.zip snad se to bude dát najít. |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 09:09 | |
|  | Je i pár videí o tom, jak se tam přistávalo. Někdy i dost krutě.  |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 11:37 | pasi |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 13:14 | Igor - zase jsem se zapomel prihlasit:) |
|  | 2Nasranej Santa:
Napis mi na icq Mam Kai-Tak. A take jsem vcera stahl video 650Mb z netu EGLL - VHHH(kai-tak), jestli mas zajem tak napis! |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 14:53 | |
|  | Jestli to není tajné, můžeš napsat link na stažení videa sem nebo mě do mailu? Dík. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 15:16 | Igor |
|  | to jsem stahoval pres Kazaa Media Desktop. - Ale je to tam naprosto super |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu 13. 5. 2003 / 15:54 | |
|  | Znám to, ale jaké slovo jsi nechal vyhledat pro to video? Nebo poslal by jsi mi to rovnou na CD? Adresu bych ti majlnul.
Mám jen krátký šot přistání B747-400 a jak si škrtne motorem o zem. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 17:37 | Bean |
|  | Cau
Fuj pirat Igor tady zase nabizi nejake kradene veci co?Tentokrat to vypada na Cathay 747-400 EGLL-VHHH od justflight.tv....ach jo,ze si nedas pokoj!
Co mne vsak jeste vic prekvapilo je,ze velky moralista Latom si to bez servitek verejne objednava na CD,neni to od tebe Latome trosku zvlastni, vzhledem k tvemu nedavnemu moralistickému prispevku z nehoz cituji toto
Re: Re: Re: Nadstavby apod. [12. 05. 15:36] Latom
-- Tady jsme všichni proti tomu, aby se tady nabízely nebo sháněly černé kopie apod. Pokud se koukneš do historie, dost se tam o tom dovíš. Nikdo z nás nechce, aby byl tento server díky těmto věcem zrušený. Je tu spousta kluků, kteří ti rádi a ochotně poradí s problémy v FS.
Zatím jsem nikde podobný server nenašel, proto ti radím - tady to s tím nezkoušej. Práci čest a lítání zvlášť.
To je fakt zvlastni jak nekteri lide ze dne na den meni sve nazory,jednou jsou desne proti,ale jindy jim to vubec neva,ze jo Latome?
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 18:04 | |
|  | Treba nevedel ze je to nelegalni kopie.
ne vsechny videa jsou komercni... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 18:39 | Bean |
|  | Sorry Santo,ale pokud by to video nebylo komercni nemusel by ho hledat pres peer to peer (byl by na nej treba link,nebo zminka na flightsimu).Navic pochybuju ze video s letem EGLL-VHHH o velikosti 650MB bude nekdo nabizet free.(nerikam ze by to nebylo super,ale bouhzel nic takovyho jsem jeste nevidel) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 14. 5. 2003 / 11:48 | |
|  | Santo díky za zastání, já opravdu nevěděl, že je to pirátský výplod. Tímto se omlouvám. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 19:05 | Igor |
|  | Me se ptali jak se to video jmenuje ja jsem ODPOVEDEL NIC VIC!!!! A to ze jsem nabidl santovi Kai-Tak tak ten NENI KOMERCNI!!!!!!!!!! |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 19:13 | Igor |
|  | nideo jsem mu NENABIZEL! rozumis? doufam ze jo.
S privetom, Igor' |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 19:20 | Bean |
|  | cau Igore,cituju z tveho postu-- A take jsem vcera stahl video 650Mb z netu EGLL - VHHH(kai-tak), jestli mas zajem tak napis!
aha...no tak to asi neco jineho myslis a neco jineho pises,pak je teda problem mezi klavesnici a zidli
hlavne se tak nevztekej ,at jeste nedostanes infarkt. |
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|  | tak jsem to napsal o Kai-Taku, ne o videu
S privetom, Igor' |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 20:05 | Bean |
|  | OK,to se teda omlouvam
S privetom Milos |
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|  | Zadnej problem
S privetom, Igor' |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kai Tak v Hongkongu - Zase piratsvi 13. 5. 2003 / 20:29 | Radek Domín / web |
|  | Dobry vecer vsem
Precetl jsem si rozrusenou debatu o nelegalmi sw(nezalezi, jestli je to video, nebo programek). Chapu, ze v zajmu zachovani "dobreho" jmena flightsim.periskopu nechcete, aby se zde problematika diskutovala. Je vsak nepochopitelne, proc to vyvolalo takovy rozruch. Sahneme si na srdce. Kolik z Vas nema na disku ani byte "neoficialniho" sw. Nechci nikoho urazet, ale myslim, ze nebudu daleko od pravdy, kdyz odhadnu, ze minimalne 90% nema ani legalni system. Dale ale nechapu, jak by mohly diskuze o nelegalnim sw poskodit primo tento server? Necetl jsem sice zadna pravidla teto diskuze, ale predpokladam, ze se v nich provozovatele zprostuji veskere zodpovednosti za probihajici komunikaci. Je mi jasne, ze si jiste (ciste komercne zamerene) servery nemohou dovolit debaty na tema piratstvi, protoze by to z obchodniho hlediska ohrozilo je same(HITS). Jsem toho nazoru, ze kazdy by mel byt odpovedny pouze za sve ciny. Pokud zde tedy nekdo nabizi "kradeny" sw a nekdo jiny ho prijima, pak je pouze na techto dvou, jak se s tim vyporadaji. A to jak sami se sebou, tak z dalsimy vykonnymi organy, ktere je za toto cineni mohou persekuovat. Je vsak velice nepravdepodovne, ze by nekdo cetl tuto konferenci a cekal na signal, na ktery by reagoval stihanim konkretni osoby.
na zaver: Timto samozrejme nechci podporovat piratske kopie sw (sam jsem tvurce nekterych komercnich tytulu), ale pouze varovat nad pokrytectvym nekterych zucasnenych. CHapu, ze v konkretnim sporu slo spise o nedorozumneni, ale mam na mysli spis tu neadekvatni reakci.
Dalse bych chtel uvest, ze s ohledem na to, ze probozuji soukrome aktivity na firemnim pc (se svolenim majitele) je tedy veskery nainstalovany sw legalni.
ps: Omlouvam se za preklepy, nemel jsem cas to po sobe cist.
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|  | Tak koukam, ze se ta diskuse svezla uplne do jine sfery, nez jsem predpokladal. Plne souhlasim s predchozim prispevkem Radka. Jestli nekdo pouziva, nebo stahuje nelegalni soft, je ciste vec jeho svedomi a je za to taky sam zodpovedny. Myslim si, ze tohle je velmi dobry server a doufam, ze by si nikdo z tech pravidelnych navstevniku nedovolil nic podobneho, jako linkovani warezu apod. Od toho jsou jine stranky. Nechme tedy tech slovnich prestrelek a pojdme se bavit o tom, co zajima nas vsechny, tj. o letani, letadlech a vsem co k tomu patri
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|  | Cau Radku,
samozrejmne mas pravdu ze snad nikdo neni uplne 100 procentne cisty co se tyce legality sveho softu,ani ja ne.
Ale myslim,ze na fora proste tyto veci nepatri (mimo forum at si kazdy pirati jak chce).Predstav si jak by to tu za chvili vypadalo,kdyby to aspon nekdo nehlidal svym ostrym pristupem,lidi by si tu v klidku vymenovali seriova cisla,apod.
Podivej se napriklad na projectai (taky freeware server),jak si tam takove veci hlidaji,staci mensi naznak a clovek nadobro leti z fora (zablokuji mu IP adresu).Proc myslis,ze si to tak hlidaji?Podle mne nechteji ohrozit svou povest,a chteji zabranit tomu,ze by jim provider (napr. na zaklade stiznosti)prestal sponzorovat domenu,bandwitch apod.
Navic si uvedom,ze tento server je freeware,ti lidi co to tu spravujou,nebo tvurci tech addonu,ktere si zdarma odsud stahujeme to delaji pro nasi zabavu,bez jakychkoliv zisku (snad mozna jen ten zisk z reklamy pokryje zakladni vydaje na tento server),myslis teda,ze je to vuci nim fer,kdyz budou ve foru podobne veci.Bohuzel nekterym lidem tato fakta nedochazeji,takze se nediv,ze jini (kteri si to uvedomuji a je jim to lito) semtam zareaguji takto ostre.(pamatuju si na prispevek Vladi Synka-tvurce free LKPR,tenkrat ho nastvalo,jak si tady typci menili reg-key na SF-EDDF,divis se mu?ja teda ne,me by to taky nastvalo).
Tot vse,co mne k tomu napada
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|  | Kurva, mne nic nenaslo asi uz cinania spia.... |
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