|  |  | CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:25 | |
|  | Ahoj,
Potrebuju poradit,uz jsem investoval do modernizace tolik penez a porad se mi to trha.. 
Bez mraku pres den to jde,pres noc taky...ale jak mam pres den mraky je to katastrofa 
Prvne reknu co mam: AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 1.5GHz ,2GB RAM,ATI Radeon 9600
Predelal jsem procesor,zadna zmena,koupil grafickou,zana zmena,pridal RAM,zadna zmena,trha se mi to dal...nevim proc a mrzi me to,co udelat pro to,aby to bezelo plynule /FS2004/ i kdyz jsou mraky a je jich dost?Dale co nechapu je nastaveni v samotnem FS2004.
Scenery complexity: Dense
Autogen Density: Normal
3D cloud: 80
Vitilelnost cloud: co nejnizsi...
Cloud Coverage Density: Maximum
Hardware - Target Frame Rate: Unlimited
Anti-aliasing: OFF
MIP mapping quality: 7
Hardware Rendered Lights:4
Global max texture size: High
Co je Anti-aliasing a jake nastaveni je vhod?
Co je Target Frame Rate a proc pri maximalnim nebo minimalnim nevidim rozdil?
Jake optimalni nastaveni mate Vy a bezi Vam to plynule a prosim,co udelat aby se litalo krasne a se zabavou nez tohle,pripade co si poridit.Dekuji za odpoved.S pozdravem Honza |
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 |  |  | Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:32 | |
|  | ATI RAdeon 9600....bližší specifikace? |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:39 | |
|  | 128MB DDR MEMORY,nevim co vic.. |
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 |  |  | Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:38 | |
|  | No ja mam podobne PC ako ty len mam Grafiku ATI Radeon 9700Pro a ide mi to v pohode. Ale trha to aj mne ked som na letisku s vela lietadlami hold treba este nieco silnejsie. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:44 | |
|  | jo,to jo,kdyz je hodne letadel je to velke nacitani textur a potom pri pozorovani letadla z venku pri pohybu mysi to kouše dost,no...zalezi jak jde,male letiste samo ze mene,ale v Praze je to dost treba...podle me je to ale vse kartou,chtelo by to asi tu nejlepsi na super vykon,ne? |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 12:00 | |
|  | Chlape ja ked letim na LKPR mam 5-10 FSP a 10FPS povazujem za luxus. Takze ak mas ty FPS? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:23 | |
|  | FPS mam 30,ale nevidim v tom nejaky rozdil i pri zmene  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 12:28 | |
|  | ale zas tak moc ne... ja litam na jenom o malo rychlejsim a lita to uzasne... grafickou kartu mam taky starsi .... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:03 | |
|  | Mam druhy comp a tam je AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2Ghz,byl by lepsi?? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:04 | |
|  | na nem litam ja... a je to tam moc dobry... krasne se tma lita... ale rozdil oproti tomu puvodnimu nebude nijak zasadni ... pokud je to opravdu hodne sekane tak je problem nekde jinde |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:06 | |
|  | Je AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2Ghz je lepsi nez AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 1.5Ghz /taktovany/ ? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 19:00 | |
|  | Pozor! Neplest si AMD Athlon XP+ a AMD A64, to je rozdil ne jen frekvence, ale i 1 generace cpu a taky treba vetsi cache!(zamerne nerikam jako rozdil 64-bit, protoze to dnes stejne stale neni vyuzite). Jde o to, ze na Athlonu 64 ti to bude behat nepomerne rychleji, jelikoz jak vsichni vime FS je zrout hlavne CPU. Pokud jeste navic k tomu starsimu XP+ pridas AS6, i kdyz s optimalizovanymi mraky, a nastavis na ATI 9600 6x AA, nediv se, ze ti to trha. Ja kdyz mel XP 3000+ a ATI 9600pro, taky sem mel AA i AF jen na 2x, a dalo se to vcelku litat. 2x AA je daleko lepsi nez nic, rozhodne vetsi rozdil nez 2x a 4x, takze zkus 2x. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:05 | |
|  | heh....na tom musis dat tak 30fps na narvany LKPR... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:07 | |
|  | Myslis Target Frame Rate v nastaveni Display? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 14:00 | |
|  | Zapni si dvakrát po sobě Shift+Z a nahoře se ti bude zobrazovat aktuální FPS. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:47 | |
|  | ani ne, mrkni na moji konfiguraci - 30 fps mivam na prazdne az "mirne narvane" LKPR. jinak modely dost radikalne snizuji fps |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:25 | |
|  | Zakoupen novy,AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2GHz...o malo lepsi ale ve dne mri mracich to trha stejne,musim snizit 3D mraku na 20procent a to neni ono  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:23 | |
|  | Prave proto si asi poridim Leadtek WinFast PX7600GT TDH Extreme GeForce PCX 7600GT, 256 MB DDR3, PCI Express x16, HDTV, DVI, software  |
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 |  |  | Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:38 | |
|  | AntiAliasing - vyhladzovanie hrán, ja mám nastavené natvrdo na karte 4x a behá to bez problémov.
Target Frame Rate je hodnota FPS nad ktoru sa nepotrebujes dostat, bezne 20-30, tudiz ti karta (ak by aj na to mala vykon) nebude pocitat viac FPS ako tu nastavenu hodnotu a teda setris vykon.
Optimalne nastavenie - kus od kusu a clovek od cloveka rozne, neda sa to takto povedat
Skus si znizit percento 3D mrakov tak na 20 a skus ako to pojde potom. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:42 | |
|  | AntiAliasing se mel na 6,zkusim na 4 no...hodnotu Target Frame Rate dam teda na 20-30 a uvidim,snizim i 3D mraky...pak se ozvu,diky za odpoved!! |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:43 | |
|  | neni zac ) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:29 | |
|  | Mraky jsou na 20procent ve 3D a FPS na 30,leti se fajn ale stejne to neni ono,kvalita mraku uz vubec ne  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 30. 7. 2006 / 13:39 | |
|  | to mas chlape nejaky divny.. ja je mam na 100% .. a litam kolem dvacet FPS )ve vzduchu( ... |
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 |  |  | Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:50 | |
|  | Já mám grafiku z dob strejdy klacka a popisované problémy nemám. Teda hned na začátku sem někde pohledal optimalizované textury mraků a je pokoj. Kde sem je ale našel už nevím. Rozhodně to byla stránka, kde těch variant mraků bylo víc. |
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 |  |  |  | Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 11:59 | |
|  | Pouzivam taky na mraky a jejich aktualizaci pri letu jako pocasi ActiveSky6,je dobry akorat at je,nebo neni,problem to neresi  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 12:36 | |
|  | Tak pak už mě napadá jen vadná paměť na grafárně. Zkus to něčím otestovat, co ta holka vlastně zvládá. Nemáš při tý zvýšený oblačnosti vidět taky nějaký chybný polygony? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:04 | |
|  | nn,zadne chyby v zobrazeni nemam...vadna pamet na graficke? To myslite novou? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:08 | |
|  | Mne sa niekedy zobrazuju take velke biele 2D stvorce namiesto mrakov, hlavne pri lietani cez LAN a tiez mam mensie problemy s FPS. Zname ta to nieco, ci len chyba v FS-ku? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 13:59 | |
|  | Ty čtverce místo mraků, co dělaj na povrchu čtvercový stíny mi to dělalo taky a bylo to myslím způsobený nějakou scenerkou. Prostě sem to ladil POKUS-OMYL až sem to vychytal.
Já myslel spíš takový různý divně poházený trojůhelníčky buď bez textur nebo s nějakou nepatřičnou tecturou. To vesměs znamená, že paměti na grafárně nestíhaj. Vlastně takhle nějak se ladí grafárna při přetaktování. Přihazuješ na rychlosti pamětí, až začne blbnout obraz. Pak se vrátíš o krok zpět a máš maximum. |
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 |  |  | Re: CO MAM DELAT S TRHÁNÍM GRAFIKY :( JA UZ NEVIM.... 20. 7. 2006 / 19:13 | |
|  | Je fakt, že každá sestava se chová trochu jinak, já mám něco podobného jako ty, procesor dokonce slabší, Athlon XP 2600+ taktovaný na 1.9Ghz 1.25 Gb Ram, Ati Radeon 9600pro(256Mb ram)
Připadá mi, že procesor máš mírně podtaktovaný XP 2800+ by mělo být cca na 2,1 Ghz, ale to záleží na desce kam až tě pustí.
Skoro všechno mám na maximum, 3D mraky na 50% a omezovač snímků na 25 FPS. Až na letiště s velkým provozem mám stále okolo 25 FPS
Pro názornost přikládám screen z Everest Home |
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