|  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 14:19 | |
|  | Na trhu je již delší čas tento joystick. Je vybaven zřejmě jednou hallovou sondou pro obě osy joysticku (jeden šváb, jeden magnet) a ačkoliv jsem s ním za posledního cca půl roku mnoho nenalétal (řádově hodiny) možná bude zajímavou alternativou pro letecké simulátory. K dostání např. na www.diskus.cz. Hallova sonda opravdu zatím drží nastavenou kalibraci po řadu měsíců bez sebemenších problémů a když jsem včera jeden joystick kuchal tak i mechanické provedení joysticku se mi zamlouvalo. Berte to prosím jako typ na joystick od jinak naprostého laika, protože sám jsem jednu dobu joystick s hallovými sondami pracně sháněl a každá informace mi byla dobrá Jinak po instalaci tohoto joysticku místo starého low-cost joye s potenciometry byl v mém případě nárůst kvality při ovládání letadla velmi znatelný. Současná cena 1.183 Kč včetně DPH.
Letu, byť jen virtuálnímu zdar  |
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 |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 15:40 | |
|  | Tos měl nafotit. Jinak hallovy sondy by tam, podle mě, měly být aspoň dvě. Už tak nějak z principu jedna hallova sonda je schopna poskytnout informace o jedné intenzitě magnetického pole a tedy nejspíš o jednom směru (poloze osy).
Jak koukám na obrázky, je tam skutečně jeden magnet a pod ním nejspíš dvojice šikovně umístěných hallových sond, byť v jedné součástce.
Docela prima nápad, mechanika se maximálně zjednodušila, tak to nemusí být ani drahé. Kdybych neměl doma nic, asi bych za tu cenu neváhal.
Saitek X52 je též s hallovými sondami.
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 15:48 | |
|  | ...ještě píšou, že má rozlišení 16384 poloh na osu. Fííha  |
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 21. 5. 2010 / 08:48 | |
|  | Skoda ze X52 nema Edwina i na plynove pace, tam uz ty potaky zacinaji pomalicku vibrovat  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 21. 5. 2010 / 10:03 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 21. 5. 2010 / 13:02 | |
|  | Aha, vidíš, jak jsem nevzdělaný?  |
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 |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 08:56 | |
|  | Clovece, zda se ze X52 pouziva Edwina )
http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x52.htm
The X52 also uses magnetic hall effect, non-contact sensors for the stick movement, so you won’t ever need to worry about employing a ground crew for regular services.
Joystick
* Precision centering mechanism, non-contact technology on X and Y axes and constant spring force reduce free play, improve control and increase durability
Ze by to byla nejaka novejsi verze? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 09:18 | |
|  | Mam pocit ze sem nekde cetl ze x52ka to ma akorat na kniplu. Na plynovce jsou normalni potenciometry a minimalne ja je mam po dvou letech pouzivani pekne v prdeli.. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 09:32 | |
|  | Aaa, to mas asi recht ;o) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 10:04 | |
|  | Jo, akorát v kniplu (to ostatně ten t-16000 taky), někde tu byl odkaz na rozebraný X52.
Pak mají HS ještě bývalé Jožovy pedály. I brzdy.  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 10:21 | |
|  | A co Xperimental - uz si testoval? )))
Ja ano a moc nadseny z toho nejsem - uz vim, jak to udelat lip )))) |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 12:42 | |
|  | Ještě ne. Já vím, jsem hrozný...  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 26. 5. 2010 / 12:44 | |
|  | Ne vubec ne, naopak delas mi radost... Ze takovy nejsem sam ))))) |
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 |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 16:13 | |
|  | Díky za zajímavý tip. Podle toho, co jsem četl, tak joysticky z hallovými senzory bývají podstatně dražší ... |
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 16:48 | |
|  | ..protože, když se někde napsalo "hallova sonda", tak to v zákaznících vyvolávalo něco jako "je to kouzelné, spousta vynikající magie", přitom je to mechanicky daleko jednodušší, jak potenciometr. A hallova sonda za 30 Kč vydrží mnohem víc a je mnohem lepší jak potenciometr za 200 Kč. |
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 |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 16:14 | |
|  | Tiež ma tento joy dosť zaujal tie technické údaje v kombinácii s tou cenou sú dosť vpohode ale odradilo ma to že má len jeden trápny sladrík ktorý má naviac dosť mizernú dráhu posunu (aspoň to tak pôsobí z fotiek). Ja osobne si asi radšej priplatím za x52 a mám tam poriadnu páku aj s všeliakými točítkami kt. sa dajú využiť na trimy, spojlery atď. aspoň dúfam |
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 21:12 | |
|  | a nebo připlatit ještě trochu za X65F člověk si na to chvilku musí zvykat, ale nehrozí, že by se mu tam udělala nějaká vůle a chodí to uplně přesně, což u straších saiteků byl trochu problém kvůli velký tuhosti pružiny. ze začátku strašnej odpor a pak to ulítlo a to se při střílení moc nehodí dělala to hlavně x45, x52 už byla lepší, ale furt to neni ončo  |
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 20. 5. 2010 / 23:07 | |
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 |  |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 21. 5. 2010 / 00:10 | |
|  | sorry za preklep chcel som napísať slajdrík = zdrobnenina od slider |
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 |  |  |  | Joystick Thrustmaster Joystick T-16000M 21. 5. 2010 / 08:34 | |
|  | Furt si myslím, že T-16000 x X52 je 900,- : 2800,- což může hrát hodně podstatnou roli.
Zvlášť, když máš třeba i jiné čudlíky. Rozdíl složitosti mechanik obou zmiňovaných zařízení je taky výrazný.
Někde jsem četl, že specializace je správná cesta (obecně), nožem na vykošťování se kuře vykostí líp, jak univerzálním zálesáckým 40cm dlouhým širokým, byť perfektním, nožem.
Srdce joye (MLX90333) vypadá jako hodně prespektivní součáskta. |
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