|  |  | FS9 FPS 29. 6. 2009 / 21:20 | |
|  | mam dotas je lepší mít zamčený FPS třeba na 50 a nebo dát na unlimited?? |
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 |  |  | FS9 FPS 29. 6. 2009 / 21:30 | |
|  | FS9: Zamknout na 25 fps...
FSX: Nechat na unlimited... |
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 |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 29. 6. 2009 / 23:26 | |
|  | Proč 25FPS na FS9? Já lítám na zamčených 40 a oproti 25 je to jiný kafe. |
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 |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 29. 6. 2009 / 23:32 | |
|  | o je... zacina se schylovat k uz x krat probrane debate, jestli je nejaky rozdil mezi 25fps a 40 fps...
ja bych to zkusil trosku ... poupravit. ja bych to nezamykal na 25 fps, ale na nejake hodnota, ktera bude o neco malo ( o 5 - 10) nizsi, nez prumerny fps, ktery tvuj pocitac dokaze v fsce udelat. |
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 |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 09:47 | |
|  | Proc jenom 25? Vetsina pocitacu je dnes s FS9 schopna jet mnohem lepe a 25FPS rozhodne jeste neni dokonale plynule. |
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 |  |  | FS9 FPS 29. 6. 2009 / 23:33 | |
|  | Úplně nejlepší asi bude, když si to zkusíš sám a necháš nastavenou takovou hodnotu, která líp odpovídá tvému systému a hlavně pocitu, že lepší už to s tímhle nastavením nebude  |
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 |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 10:23 | |
|  | nejlepsi je to okolo 35FPS... |
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 |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 10:28 | |
|  | nene. nejlepsi je 37 ...
ale vazne. na tos prisel jak? co kdyz mam pc, ktere da sotva 15? a co kdyz mam pc, ktere da v klidu treba 90? je to stejna kravina, jako tech na zacatku zminenych 25 nebo jakekoli jine cislo... je to velmi individualni |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 10:40 | |
|  | Pánové, pánové...
Oko není schopno zaznamenávat kontinuální tok světelné informace, protože zpracování světelného podnětu oku a nervovému systému určitou dobu trvá. Tato doba činí zhruba jednu šestnáctinu sekundy. Pokud tedy přijdou světelné podněty do oka v časovém rozmezí kratším než tato doba, vnímá oko sledovanou scénu kontinuálně, v pohybu. Díky tomuto jevu a „správné" frekvenci střídání filmových záběrů na plátně v kině (resp. obrazů na televizní obrazovce) můžeme vnímat plynulý pohyb obrazů na filmovém plátně v kině nebo na televizní obrazovce). Zmíněná „správná" frekvence se pohybuje okolo 25 snímků za sekundu.
zdroj: http://www.rvp.cz/clanek/6/1768 |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 10:57 | |
|  | to jsem sesne cekal ze se tu objevi. to plati za predpokladu, ze zaznam byl proveden tou rychlosti 25. kdyz si zastavis film, tak zjistis, ze jednotliva policka jsou rozmazana.
tech 25 snimku se tyka jen samotneho stridani policek. ale do toho musis brat v uvahu I zobrazovanou informaci. na pocitaci to rozmazani jaksi chybi. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 11:10 | |
|  | jeste shrnuti... pisu z mobilu- v tv funguje tech 25 diky tomu, ze film byl pri tdch 25 zaznamenan. diky tomu jsou policka filmu jemne rozmazana a navozuji pocit plynuleho pohybu.
na pc ale to rozmazani chybi. pc pocita obrazky po jednom. proto I pri fps vyssi nez tech 25 vnimas trhanost pohybu a pro dosazeni plynulosti musis dosahnout mnohem vice obrazku. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 13:06 | |
|  | nebo nechat poyhbující se předměty "máznout" 
Musím se přidat k tragédovi, vnímání zobb razeného pohybu je nejen individuální, ale taky trochu složitější (dosvit obrazovky/pixelu screenu, způsob zobrazení. katodovka, display std.). Tytéž problémy velmi dobře vnímá kdokoliv, kdo si dává práci s převodem (kompresí) videí z různých formátů (HDTV, PAL) do "skromnějších" formátů (mp3, mp4, atd. atd.)
25 obrázků je historický kompromis vycházející z možností fotografie. Na počátku filmové éry byla frekvence políček 18 - a bylo to proto, že délka expozice jednoho políčka se řešila velikostí segmentu kruhové clony mezi objektivem a filmem. Při zakrytí film poskočil, při odkrytí se exponoval. Citlivost tehdejších materiálů by s většími rychlostmi (kratší expozicí) měly problém. Později (lepší citlivost a zrno filmu...to jsou taky veličiny v nepřímé úměře) umožnily kratší expozici, takže rychlejší frekvenci - 25 políček za sec. je v kině vemi přijatelné - ale když čucháš plátno, tak to cukání taky vidíš.
Kruh se uzavírá, formát PAL má 50 "půlpolíček" - tedy 25 obrázků/sec - jako kino. Dosvit starých katodových trubic je dostatečný, aby vykryl dohasínajícími řádky mezery v následujícícm půlpolíčku.
Na monitorech modernějších, kontrastních a barevných už ale začíná být problém - proto se "refresh" upravuje na 60-75 i 100 obrázků/sec. To aby nám nebylo na blití, když šoupem myš nebo rozbalujem wokna.
No a chudák FS - kam se hrabe! - na oderních "ostrých" monitoreech by měl mít FPS taky kolem 60 (aspoň). A kdo z nás na to dosáhne, že....
Takže - nastavte si to tak, aby vám to co nejmíň unavovalo oči. Víc se k tomu říct nedá. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 11:21 | |
|  | Můj názor jsem tu už jednou psal Silně to podle mě závisí na velikosti obrazovky. Mám porovnání dvou docela velkých extrémů - promítací plocha s max. rozlišením, které FS9 podporuje o straně cca 2m a doma 17" LCD monitor. A 25 FPS na 17" LCD je docela v pohodě, kdežto 25FPS na tom velkém plátně je sakra sekaná záležitost, pokud se jedná u FSky např. pri zatáčení na zemi (v hladině to nikdo nepozná). Jde hlavně o to, jak moc se ten obraz pohne - změní v rozmezí pár snímků. Jestli si určím bod, který bude cestovat během 10 snímků na 17" obrazovce o např. 5mm, tak mi to příjde plynulé, ale jestli se stejným počtem snímků ten bod bude muset urazit reálnou vzdálenost na té promítací ploše např. 40cm, tak mi ten obraz bude poskakovat a bdue se jevit jako hoooodně sekaný. Mám to zažité, takže vím o čem mluvím. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 15:03 | |
|  | Pekna blbost. Pripada ti obraz v kine plynuly? Mne tedy ne. Mozna az tak televize s 25 FPS prokladanymi, coz vjemem odpovida 50 FPS. A u PC her, ktere vykresli kazdy snimek perfektne ostry, je potreba co nejvice. 25 FPS je sice v nouzi dostatecnych, ale urcite to neni hodnota, pri jejimz dosazeni se da rict, ze vic uz je zbytecnych. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 15:09 | |
|  | no mne obraz v kine pripada plynuli  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 15:13 | |
|  | Připadá, protože v tu chvíli nemáš nic jiného na porovnání. Kdyby to šlo a někdo ti v půlce filmu pustil video třeba s 80ti fps na plátno, hned by si viděl jak to není plynulé |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 15:28 | |
|  | Mas spatne oci Pokud se kamera pohybuje, tak je po poradne trhane. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 15:11 | |
|  | Souhlasím. A zkoušel jsem u jedné hry (ne fs) jak bude obraz plynulý při různých fps a onu plynulost obrazu jsem "cítil" až někde u 60-70fps  |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 16:45 | |
|  | jen drobna, bezvyznamna technicka.. to co ma tv, neni 25 prokladanych, ale 50 prokladanych, ktere odpovidaji 25 neprokladanym.
obraz v kine mi prijde plynuly uplne v pohode. to uz by musela byt extremne "akcni" scena, aby byl neplynuly. kdyz, tak spis ma tendenci obcas blikat (i kdyz to take bylo hlavne ve starsich kinech). |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 17:18 | |
|  | Ještě že se zeptám bude mi stačit 30 FPS když si nastavím? |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 17:20 | |
|  | Zkus a uvidis...ja si vystacim i s 25FPS a nekdy mam znatelne mene a taky ziju. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 17:42 | |
|  | zacinam si pripadat jak v ustavu ... si tam tech tricet nastav a uvidis sam, jestli to bude stacit. |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 17:59 | |
|  | Zykysem se nenech vytáčet, on to dělá "defaultně". |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 19:46 | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 30. 6. 2009 / 23:09 | |
|  | Zykys je ucebnicovy priklad cloveka, ktory svoje myslienkove pochody prenasa priamo na perak bez toho aby si nieco vyskusal, vyhladal apod 
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 1. 7. 2009 / 17:08 | |
|  | spíš bez toho, aby na těch pochodech zapracovali i další části jeho mozku... |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 1. 7. 2009 / 18:28 | |
|  | No tak dobrý už toho můžete nechat nebaví mě to pořád číst mě nepřipadá nic špatného že se zeptam. |
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 |  |  | FS9 FPS 6. 7. 2009 / 21:45 | |
|  | Ty bláho ja se asi zabiju tak já hraju už 4 roky s potažením FPS na 20. A ted jsem zjistil za se to muze nastavit. Tak hraju v pohode na 40. Zblaznim se asi.... |
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 |  |  |  | FS9 FPS 7. 7. 2009 / 16:42 | |
|  | Ale ze je to tam v tom menu schovany co A nez to muzes zmenit, musis zadat 3x pristupovy heslo a jeste otisk prstu  |
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